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What is growing in the middle of my Kelanchoe?
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Posted by puglvr1 9 FL (My Page) on Wed, Nov 18, 09 at 13:53
| I was wondering if anyone knows what that thing is in the middle of my plant? I've had this for almost two years, and about 11 months ago I decided to plant it in the ground next to a wall, since we do get(2-4) days of freeze here in the winter and I noticed this "thing". Apparently snails like eating some of the leaves...Any ideas? Thanks!

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RE: What is growing in the middle of my Kelanchoe?
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An old stalk? The snails do like this plant. A little DE around it usually works. Or I use a snail killer that is not toxic to animals. Not sure of the name. Tally HO! |
RE: What is growing in the middle of my Kelanchoe?
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| Yes, it looks like the stem of your Kalanchoe. |
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| I put little saucers of beer out to take care of my snails. That way they can die happy! My dog doesn't like beer, but if you have animals that do, that might not work so well. I've also heard that coffee works, although I've never tried it myself. |
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| I've heard that fermented grape juice would work too. The dish should be down a bit so it's level with the soil. also have heard to put a board on the ground. The snails will hide under it. Check it in the am and get rid of any you find. JoJo |
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| Thanks so much!! Who Knew? Lol...Well apparently you all did! I will put some type of animal friendly snail bait out. |
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| The only animal friendly snail bait available near me is SLUGGO, iron phosphate in corn meal. It dehydrates the snails, but is not poisonous to animals, large and small. Unfortunately it costs more than the many different products that just reformulate the same old nasty stuff: metaldehyde. This horrible chemical is the number one cause of dog poisoning deaths here in California. The LD50 (the dose that is fatal to 50%) is only 100 mg/kg for dogs. That means that a 10 lb dog could be fatally poisoned by less than 1/2 gram of metaldehyde, the amount contained in less than 1/2 ounce of a 4% metaldehyde bait (a typical concentration). A 50 lb dog may be killed by just 2 grams of metaldehyde, which is contained in less than 2 ounces of common snail baits. You get the idea, it doesn't take very much. Death occurs by destroying the nervous system, kidneys, and liver. Animals that survive will have many health problems, and a shortened life span. Please do not use metaldehyde containing snail baits! There are safe and effective alternatives. It drives me crazy to go into our local Home Depot and see 100 different products all containing various formulations of metaldehyde, and only one truly non-toxic snail bait. Snails that eat an iron phosphate pellet need to drink lots of water to dilute the drying effect of the salt. Fortunately, snails do not drink, getting all of their water from food. Since they stop eating after ingesting an iron phosphate pellet, they just go away to die, never to be seen again, except maybe, as an empty shell. Pellets that are not consumed simply fall apart. There is no toxic waste. I live near ground zero of the gastropod invasion here in the USA. These snails were imported by an enterprising French chef in San Francisco during the Gold Rush around 1850. Unfortunately, the business went belly up (did he really think he was going to get Americans to eat snails?), and all of his livestock escaped into the countryside. They have expanded their range quite a bit since then. Most folks around here think they are a native Californian pest, but the common garden snail (Helix aspersa) is that same tasty critter the French call Escargot. Yummy! Brad |
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| Brad, Thank you for the plea and the history - as you've been at the center, have you yourself had these tasty morsels? I've heard that if you fatten them up on cornmeal for a few days, with a little garlic and butter they're quite good. Of course, with G&B you can make an old tennis shoe tasty. |
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| "Fortunately, snails do not drink, getting all of their water from food. Since they stop eating after ingesting an iron phosphate pellet, they just go away to die, never to be seen again, except maybe, as an empty shell. Pellets that are not consumed simply fall apart. There is no toxic waste. " Wouldn't neem screw them up, too? Or you could just do the FUN thing and go out there at night with a flashlight and a salt shaker. |
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| I don't believe snails got to that plant, I don't see any holes in the newer young leaves. I think they fell off to other reasons, if it were the snails, some of the leaf would still be left. It just may grow back leaves when it's time do do so. Lets hope. Each of those side growths, can be separated and grown on their own, but wait until next year when the weather warms up during the night time hours. They do not like cold weather, and may be monocarpic, (dying after they flower) It puts on new growth before the stem died completely. It grows like an Agave in a sense. Several species are annuals as well. this one is not from Madagasscar. It is on the 30th parrell south of the Equator. Norma |
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| Thanks again for all your suggestions and help. I appreciate it. The salt shaker thing might be my best bet. Norma, I will keep an eye on the stem and see if anything new grows from it. Thank you! |
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| And dogs will eat every single pellet of snail bait they find. Apparently it's quite tasty to them and fatal. I hate the stuff. Sluggo works even if it is more expensive, it's still cheaper than a trip to the vet. I tried the salt shake but it is gross! Texas Parks & Wildlife had an article a few years back on the brown snails that plague us. You catch them, put them in an aquarium & feed them lettuce, etc. for a week or so, then they had recipes to prepare them. I ate snails once when I was working on the cruise ship. My question is WHY! They were OK but too salty and I just don't understand why you would want to eat them. I am more then willing to send boxes of them to France. Tally HO! |
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| They feed them lettuce, etc. to purge them. I don't eat mine, but I did taste them before, and found them tender and very good. Norma |
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| yeah... if the snails you ate were salty, then someone salted them and put way too much. There is no reason they would be salty naturally. I find them delicious, but would never eat those I catch... Purging or not, who knows what pesticides they may still have in them. |
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