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graptoveria and echeveria not looking so hot :-(

Hi!

This graptoveria I bought in september and in general it is looking MUCH better. But it has lost nearly all the bottom leaves. Probably all the leaves that were on it when I bought it. And when I got back from a 10 day trip I noticed it is now sending out aireal roots. Is this ok? Do I just need to plant it a little deeper?

The pic below is the side view...

This post was edited by Deva33 on Tue, Dec 2, 14 at 14:57

Comments (13)

  • deva33 Z8 Atlanta
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    here is the birdseye view

  • deva33 Z8 Atlanta
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    now for the topsy turvy. Its the same dang story. All that exposed stem was covered in leaves when I purchased it in September or October. Leaves are dropping one by one and I just dont know when it is going to stop! Any tips/advice/ideas are welcome.

  • deva33 Z8 Atlanta
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    top view... so you can see the top looks very healthy (to me at least!)

  • deva33 Z8 Atlanta
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    and this is when I first bought it. Maybe a few weeks later - after the repot into gritty mix.

    you can see those yucky leaves in the bottom left picture. That is what they are doing... it seems to be slowing down but when I came back from my 10 day trip there were 4 more leaves dying

  • hookilau
    9 years ago

    I'm having a similar issue and looking forward to reading replies. All the new growth on my plants look healthy but the loss of lower leaves has me questioning whether there's something wrong or not.

    Mine are also in a gritty mix & under lights, how's your light situation?

  • rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
    9 years ago

    some leaves just get old...

  • davids10 z7a nv.
    9 years ago

    plants respond to different care regimes-light, water, humidity, what we think are small changes have a disproportionate effect on the plants and the most common reaction is leaf loss.

  • deva33 Z8 Atlanta
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Do you think it has been too much change in the past 3-4 months? Purchased - out of horrific conditions, put into gritty mix, at first were outside until about a month ago when it got too cold. They are now inside under a compact florescent grow light. I think I have it set for about 10 hours a day. 7am to 7pm.

  • rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
    9 years ago

    Deva

    I think they are just reacting to the change. Indoors, even under CFL's, is still not the same as being outside, receiving sunlight, having better air circulation. We can only try to give them something as close as possible.
    Repotting - even if necessary - is another 'shock' they had gone thru; on top of 'horrific conditions' they were in (as you said). Davids10 already pointed that out. On top of that, some bottom leaves are probably old enough to die & fall off.

    They are going to get etiolated somehow because of lack of sun. So be prepared for that. For us in colder zones, they have to spend more time in these conditions.

    Just concentrate on keeping them healthy - don't overwater, keep them free of insects, and supply as much light as possible (you are already doing that). Can you keep light on little longer (12 hrs or so?)
    BTW, what size bulbs are you using? How far is the light source from the plants?

    Rina

  • deva33 Z8 Atlanta
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Thanks Rina. I don't know the size of the bulb. It's a compact fluorescent light system I purchased from Amazon last year. It's about 6-8" from the plants right now. I need to get some chain to get it a little closer but I just haven't gotten to it. Grad school is keeping me busy. I'm also wanting a 2nd light because the one just isn't enough for all my plants.
    There are no bugs. I water every 10-14 days or so, & fertilize every other watering. Most of my succulents are in gritty mix. Those that aren't get watered less frequently & will move to gritty in the spring.

  • rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
    9 years ago

    I also use CFL light bulbs. After reading quite a bit about growing under lights, I bought 100W daylight. They use only 23W, so economical. Look for marking on package, daylight will be in blue spectrum. Higher the #-better (try to get min. 4000k.)
    I hope I am not suggesting something you already know.

    Rina

    Edited to add:

    ...and shedding the older leaves. Much of it has to do with the fact that those lower, older leaves can no longer be supported by the current amount of light the plants are receiving.

    that is what Josh (greenman28) mentioned on another thread (he is referring to jades in this case):
    read here
    Read further post by Al (tapla) in same thread regarding shedding the leaves.

    This post was edited by rina_ on Wed, Dec 3, 14 at 20:26

  • deva33 Z8 Atlanta
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Thanks Rina. I appreciate you posting a pic of the bulbs. I have started and read through another thread on grow lights but I have also quickly forgotten what I should get. I like the idea of getting a few of those to hang from my little makeshift stand. Pics will follow. Just give me a few weeks. I have finals in 2 weeks so its crunch time!

  • LisaPlantNerd
    9 years ago

    My Topsy Turvy is looking the same way! lower leaves wrinkle up and die off, elongated stem. :(