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Agave americana pot culture

Posted by mateopava 8a El Paso, Tx (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 2, 13 at 17:17

I have been thinking of growing one of these on my patio in a pot. They get far too large for my patio, and I do not wish to grow something that I will eventually be forced to find a new home.
Is it possible to restrict growth, perhaps by keeping it root bound, so that it will not exceed 3 feet in diameter?
Some of the research I have done indicates pot busting roots, so perhaps it is not possible to keep root bound for long.
I'm just wondering if anyone has had success keeping these small for the life of the plant.
Thanks in advance.

Matt


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RE: Agave americana pot culture

I have one in a pot, and I really don't think they can be dwarfed effectively - by which I mean, root-pruning will only work for a while, and then the plant's vitality and looks will begin to suffer. I'm about to give mine to a friend who has a nice property.

Josh


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Yuccado nursery sells protoamericanas that are much smaller and hardier. Will do fine in a pot.


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  • Posted by nil13 z21 L.A., CA (Mt. Wa (My Page) on
    Mon, Dec 2, 13 at 20:58

keep an americana to 3 feet? bahahahahahaha!

pick a different agave.


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What these guys said, pick a different Agave. Almost any Agave is a better choice than a potted A. americana.


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Already have many of the species that stay 2 feet or less. Was wondering about the possibility of root pruning, Greenman28.
I've been looking at that protoamericana, chadec. I've heard it is easier to keep small in a pot.
Are there any of the large Agaves that might be easy to keep small in a pot?

Thanks for the input.

Matt


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No. You might try A. palmeri or A. chrysantha, though I would categorize them as mid-sized rather than large.


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Yeah, I guess I pretty well knew the odds were against it. I've done quite a bit of research on the matter. Thought I would ask anyway. Time to switch to a different genus. Thanks again, GermanStar.


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I have had good luck with Agave Montana, A. montanna 'Baccarat'. Agave colorata, Agave parryi.


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Wed, Dec 4, 13 at 17:46

The A. americana medio-picta alba version stays at about 3', even in the ground. It's also prettier than plain A. americana.


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Awesome, I'll take a look at all of your suggestions. Really appreciate it.

Matt


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I have found that this plant does tend to keep smaller when put in a small pot... eventually it tends to decline a bit.. .but I have not had one literally break a pot (though I suspect that will eventually happen), even after being in the same pot for 10 years. This is an Agave americana striata that has been in that pot for 5 years (and this was 4 years ago)... I just took it out of pot this year. Not an ounce of soil left in pot... just a pot-shaped ball of roots.


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Nice one lzrddr, It is a beauty. What diameter did that Agave attain by the time you removed it from that pot?

Matt


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you're looking at it... Just got a bunch of suckers, but the main plant looked just about like that


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I am getting an A. attenuata pup this coming week. I'd like to know if I can start it off in a large planter which was large enough to hold an adult aloe vera.

The aloe I had died on me. It was the living room facing a western window and was thriving. Suddenly, it contracted some nasty mold which resulted in my having to throw it away. The soil was really damp and colored with some sort of yellow mold. I suspect my Michael was surreptitiously putting water in the pot, an act he swears he didn't do.

In any case, I cleaned up the pot this morning with mild dish soap and bleach just in case I can use it for my new plant.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pup being purchased from Ebay


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Sharon,

Likely not, as the rootball of the pup sounds like it will be dwarfed by the pot.


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And that's a differently wonderful plant, Geoff.

This thing has gotten only larger. I've removed some pups and it still looks large.
 photo DSCN4881.jpg


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Hi cactusmcharris,

Then I will go with a much smaller planter then. Thanks. :-)


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Hi cactusmcharris,

Then I will go with a much smaller planter then. Thanks. :-)


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Can anyone tell me how long it takes for an agave plant to produce pups? I suspect it varies from variety to variety. I presently have an agave Americana, and I am expecting the delivery of an agave attentuata pup on Monday.


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Neither takes all that long, but the variables in the equation preclude me from giving you an exact date. OK, OK, 74 days from now.


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@cactusmcharris: LOL! The reason I ask is I've heard agaves are slow growing, so I wondered whether it'd take years for it to produce pups. :-)


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Sharon,

Given where you are, not likely. Where I am, I've learned that plants taken from Arizona/California often take a year to adjust to these northern latitudes.


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Catusmcharris,

Thanks! My agave has arrived at the post office here in Houston. I can't wait for its delivery. :-)


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My new agave (agave attenuata) has arrived! It's a little worse for wear traveling from CA via USPS to Houston, TX but it's a healthy pup. Quite happy. :-)


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Here's another picture. :-)


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In keeping with the subject of the thread here, a picture of my agave Americana.


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Sharon,

Far be it from me to tell you your growing conditions, but that soil looks too peaty for humid Houston. I'd cut it with some pumice / perlite (about 50% ratio is recommended).


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CactusMcHarris,

It's soil especially designed for cactus and other plants that require fast-draining soil. I suppose adding pumic/perlite wouldn't hurt, especially with the summer heat we'll soon be getting. Thanks.


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Btw, I had just watered the agave after potting it. But if the store-brought cactus mix is a product people routinely doctor, I certainly can do that and add in some perlite/pumice.


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Mateopava, on a new note you could place it in a pot for perhaps a shorter time period, Sometimes I have to remind myself, hey no one said I was going to leave it there F O R E V E R... Kinda like paint, I say hey! It's just paint I can always repaint it :)

Change it up, I've been known to move my plants @ like furniture.

Greg


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Hi,

Can anyone tell me if it's safe for the plant if its spines are clipped?


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Sharon,

It won't kill the plant, but it will pile on the ugly, IMO. You wouldn't want it aesthetically displeasing, I'd also venture.


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^ Plus 1.

Either plant it outside, or give it to someone who can. There are plenty of fine Agaves far more suited to container culture than what appears to be A. salmiana.


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Cactus McHarris: Well, if it is going to make the plant ugly, then I will leave it be.

@GermanStar: The plant is still a baby; I purchased at it Lowe's which sold it as agave Americana. Eventually the plant will have to be planted outdoors, but since it's a slow-growing plant it will be some time before that's necessary. In the meantime, we enjoy its presence in our living room.


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Unless that is a lighting trick, A. americana does not have smooth, shiny leaves, A. salmiana (which can grow even larger) does. I have an A. americana that went from small pup to 5' tall in three years. They grow like weeds. In any case, enjoy your plant.


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No, my plant has a decidedly matte surface that is outlined by thorns on either side of the leaves with spikes at the end. When the time comes to move it, I will either plant it outside contingent on the landlord's blessings or give it to someone who can.


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