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Oh, Poopie!

chaparralgirl
12 years ago

I think I may have lost one of my aloes to the cold, and/or overwatering...? (I'm thinking the two together.)

I had this lovely pot of 3 Aloe "California" plants that were all in (presumably) healthy condition when we moved in last week/week before (I can't remember, it's all been a blur). Here they are, on a flat with a bunch of my other houseplants:

The aloe had been sitting on the floor in the garage for about a week or so as we continue (and continue and continue and continue...) to unpack and I try to figure out where to put which plants based on size, light requirements, and available space. I watered it once last week, out of habit - it used to be an indoor plant, where it was much warmer and the air drier. Only today have I been able to get to the aloe to place it - and when I did, I found one of the three looking like this:

Let's look at that closer:

When I picked it up, it was literally mush in my hands, and dripping aloe juice all over the place.

:(

I brought my poor aloe sisters inside (and will likely put the dearly departed in the composter) and examined the remaining two. Both appeared healthy:

But upon examining the stalks at the soil line:

"Oh, no," I thought, and started tugging gently as I started to clear away some of the soil to see how the roots looked...

Oops.

Well, crap.

I then examined the remaining aloe, checking both stalk and roots:

They look ok to me, but what do I know? (I'm being serious.) Anyone else see anything glaringly obvious that's just staring me in the face?

Here's the stalk I managed to pull apart:

And the top of the plant I pulled from it:

So, my questions are these:

1. Was it likely overwatering? Or the cold? (Or both?)

2. Is there anything I can do with that bottomless stalk I now have, or is it pretty much toast?

Hoping not to kill any more plants.

*CG*

Comments (15)

  • squishyplant
    12 years ago

    Hey CG,
    I've heard good reports of re-rooting aloe in pure pumice or perlite.

    The plant in the top pic is pretty much gone. The other two seem healthy enough, maybe a little etoliated. I think it was probably a combination of water and cold. The medium you have it potted in looks too organic which would hold too much water. If you can go for the gritty mix....do it. I grow mine in mostly Diatomaceous earth.

    Slowly re-introduce the one with healthy roots back into stronger light with a much lighter, airy potting medium.

    I would cut the other one just above the lowest leaf and keep it in pure perlite in a shadier area with indirect light until it reroots. Make sure you cut all the way past the rot or else it will continue.
    I hope you save it!
    Matthew

  • chaparralgirl
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Squishy,

    I figured that first sister is done. I was contemplating harvesting the good parts for aloe flesh, but then I realized I have no actual use for it - no sunburns in our house this time of year. So I'm just going to toss it in the compost.

    Yeah, I really need to get a better potting medium. Do you think Lowes or Home Depot would have something suitable? I've found that places like Wal-Mart don't really - they carry "cacti/succulent mix" but from reading the ingredients it doesn't sound all that suitable. I'll look for pumice and perlite, as you suggest.

    (I also really need to get a potting table. I have no work space, and my husband gets really irritated when I do my potting and other plant care on the kitchen counter.)

    Thanks for the advice - it's greatly appreciated!

    *CG*

  • squishyplant
    12 years ago

    Home depot or lowes or most garden centers should carry perlite.
    Best bet is to go to NAPA auto parts and ask for product number 8822. It's the same as turface. Or if you have access to turface and it's not too expensive, give that a go. Be sure to screen and rinse it though. Window screen works fine. Use caution when screening, the dust is very bad to inhale. Wear a mask.
    Matthew

  • meyermike_1micha
    12 years ago

    *CG*

    I am so sorry you that happened to you your plant. With Matts helped, you are in good hands. I think you can save a few and prevent this from happening in the future with such greta advice.

    Mike

  • Colleen E
    12 years ago

    Awwww, you're a sweet gal and I'm sorry to hear of the heartache! This is why I suffer from winter paranoia. Experimentation with the cold might be something I'd do if I were both richer and less emotionally attached. ;) So sorry about your misfortune.

  • chaparralgirl
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Mike - thanks, I'm really hoping the perlite works. I just picked up a bag from Lowes and will give it a go tomorrow when I get home from class.

    Sharron - I hear ya, believe me, I'm paranoid too. I'm hoping my sofa table will be done tomorrow and I can start bringing some of my plants in. (Right now it's 49 degrees out - within tolerance levels, but still makes me nervous.) Every day I check them, afraid of what I might find. I, too, am emotionally attached! Isn't it funny how we get that way over our plants? (I still get a little upset when I look at pictures of some of my plants that have since "passed on.")


    *CG*

  • chaparralgirl
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Squishy,

    I cut that one aloe above the bottom leaf (and above the rot), as you suggested, and potted it in pure perlite. How often should I water it? And what kind of light should I keep it in?


    *CG*

  • Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
    12 years ago

    Water and Cold doesn't mix. When hot, too much water may be forgiven. When cold, no water at all. Plants know and just sleep or something. I got a Jade that was in a unheated house for years and forgotten. It was never watered. Belonged to my wife's late grandmother. We brought it home and started to water the hard stem. Came back to life and produced new leaves. Who knew. I got a snake plant that started to rot and fall over. I totally left it alone and put it some where to die. Months later after total neglect it started to produce new pups and start over. Some times we kill with love(water).
    Good Luck
    Stush

  • cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
    12 years ago

    CG,

    Have a gander at the Aloe FAQ - the fellow who wrote it saved some Aloes (too many) from The Rot.

  • chaparralgirl
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Cactus - Great, I'll give that a look. Thanks!


    *CG*

  • squishyplant
    12 years ago

    CG,
    No roots = no water
    Some people mist occasionally. I'm not sure what the etiquette is with that though.

    Matthew

  • chaparralgirl
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Squishy,

    So...it should, conceivably, just start to sprout roots? Like a leaf taken from a Grapto or an Echeveria?

    I'm glad I asked, cuz I really wanted to give it a drink once it was potted. Told myself to wait until I knew for sure it was ok to do so. So, no watering until it grows roots. Got it. Thanks!


    *CG*

  • User
    12 years ago

    Hi CG,

    Sorry about your plant loss, but then again, it's a bit of the learning curve when one starts growing succulents.

    One can sum up about watering succulents (generally speaking) by remembering:

    when it comes to watering, when in doubt, don't.

    Also, about rooting things (again, speaking generally), the best indicator of a plant having rooted is the appearance of new growth. One may not see any roots developing as they'll likely be growing below the mix. So when you see the new growth starting to appear, you know it's safer for you to water.

    Good luck w/ it.

  • cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
    12 years ago

    Hence never watering the soil when the plants have no roots - the plants don't need it because (drumroll) they have no roots.

    This is where the propitious use of a spray bottle set on 'Mist Factor 3' comes into good use. Once a day, or once every other day, just like I'm going to do in a few moments.

    If a rooted plantlet is being planted, but you don't want to water the soil for a variety of possible reasons, misting is again the way to go - the plant will grow under a misting regimen, one just mists more heavily.

  • hijole
    12 years ago

    OOOH... So sorry, he looks like he difinately drowned from to much water. I guess we can all chalk that one up for experience.

    Greg