I got them from someone who got them off craigs, they were supposed to be exotic gingers, but they are just huge, and I would post exchange, but no one looks at that. Right now, I cut them down to the ground so the bulbs can be dug up for winter, but I don't have room for them. They are doing so well, that they shade other plants. They would be good if you want a large trouble free hedge for privacy. Probably I would get more takers if I pretended they were gingers.