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Posted by janetla USDA z10 LA, CA (My Page) on Thu, Jan 19, 06 at 14:00
| Has anyone in southern California had experience growing naranjilla plants? The estimates of when and how much they fruit seem to vary a lot. If you've tasted it, what did you think of the flavor? |
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RE: Naranjilla (solanum quitoense)
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| I love lulo!!! We have grown them once before, and they flowered but didn't fruit, then succumbed to nematodes after we moved them from huge pots and planted them directly in the ground. But you can buy good quality frozen pulp at some central/south american groceries. The quality can vary, and some brands are awful, but La Nuestra, SAS, and maybe Goya, are pretty reliable. Still, although the pulp is great for making juice, it's not the same as eating the fresh fruit. |
RE: Naranjilla (solanum quitoense)
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| I grow them as decorative annuals every year here in the central valley. They don't survive the winter, we get frost here. While they flower mightily, they never set fruit. I'm thinking that it's too hot at night for fruit set, although they dont set fruit even in the fall after the hot weather ends. |
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| I don't grow it in CA, I grow it in FL. I get TONS of fruit on it down here. It is somewhat difficult because many pests seem to like it-whiteflies especially. I find the fruit tasty, but very seedy. Do I just have a bad cultivar? Are some less seedy than others? I grew som from seed last year, hoping to get a better quality fruit this year. |
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| It is my first year trying to grow naranjilla. So far I've been lucky, they are growing nicely. I plan on keeping them in pots for the nematode reason and I've read at 85F the plant "collapses". Our summer gets to 110+ and many days above 100. My hope is when this happens or at any sign of distress, to move them inside the house into a sunny window. When I went to the Huntington BG, in their new cloudforest area, I think I saw one of these growing, could not find a label. Pretty sure it was a naranjilla, its environment was cool and humid, perhaps the hummidity explains fruit set in FL and not CA? here is a pic of one of my plants, love the purple, -Ethan
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RE: Naranjilla (solanum quitoense)
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- Posted by janetla USDA z10 LA, CA (My Page) on
Sun, Jun 10, 07 at 22:30
| This is the evidence for good things coming to people who wait--this original post was a year and a half ago! My hairy funny little plants just suddenly sprouted from seed many, many weeks after they were sown. Hope they follow the Florida poster and actually produce fruit! |
RE: Naranjilla (solanum quitoense)
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| I grew naranjillas last year and am this year. Last year, I had the highly spiked variety, that I believe is hardier in the wild but makes fruit with many seeds that is inferior to the spineless variety, which I am growing this year. I started them inside under a 600 watt metal halide light around mid-October, as it can take 6-9 months for them to start flowering from seed. Mine took 6 this year. A late april frost damaged and eventually defoliated them, but they recovered. The stem did not die. I live in Northwest Arkansas, and its been 105 for a couple weeks previous, but now it has begun to cool down. They have shown heat damage along the veins starting from the petiole but maintained growth, albeit malformed. With the cooler weather they have begun to come around. Flea beetles are a major problem for me. They love these more than anything else in the garden. Next year I plan to build a shade tent to combat them and heat. I believe some may not set fruit, if the proper pollinator is not present. I have only seen Carpenter Bees pollinating mine. However, with the late frost that my land had this spring, I believe the carpenter bees were effected, as I saw them almost daily in my yard pre-April-frost, and none post-April-frost. So this year I have pollinated by hand with little avail, I managed to set 6 fruit among 9 plants, because it is difficult, at least for me, to find and separate the pollen grains from the poricidal (pollen released through pores) anthers, and, furthermore, Naranjillas are andromonoecious, meaning only some of the flowers are female and will make fruit. These are the ones with longer styles. Typically, I find 1 or 2 in an inflorescence of 10 to 14 . The fruit takes around 2 months to ripen from set. My 6 have about another 2 weeks. I believe in addition to carpenter bees, bumblebees might work, if they can be attracted to the flowers, by pruning the plants heavily to make it more wide open, otherwise I don't think the bumble bees would want to fly into the plants interior. Last year, with the carpenter bees pollinating, 2 plants set 40+ fruit, of the seedy kind from spiky plants. It had an alright taste though, just couldn't consume the seeds with any pleasure. I believe the spineless kind is different; there is a evident difference even in the appearance of the fruit : Spiky Lulo fruit (note that hairs begin on both but rub easily off) - http://topdfetropicals.com/pics/garden/04/5000/4652.jpg YOU MUST REMOVE THE dfe from the image location (apparently, TopdfeTropicals, a nursey I will never buy from again for many reasons, spams garden sites like this and so this site wont let me use its name. I dont like or promote them just trying to show the difference in cultivar selection) Spineless Lulo fruit - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Lulo.jpg/626px-Lulo.jpg The pollinator information can be referenced at http://www.tieroekologie.uni-bonn.de/Projects/Lulo.htm. Note that the "Lulo needs specialized pollinators which are able to shake the flower so that pollen is released from poricidal anthers" Good Growing, Motes |
RE: Naranjilla (solanum quitoense)
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- Posted by cixel z10 FL (My Page) on
Sun, Nov 25, 07 at 19:14
popper1, where are you located in florida? im curious what other problems youve run up against growing naranjilla. chris rollins at the fruit and spice park says dont even try growing naranjilla in miami because its too hot. what do you think? |
RE: Naranjilla (solanum quitoense)
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Here in Costa Rica it grows all over the place, with many different temperatures. It sprouts up along the roadsides. The juice is delicious. I have just planted some from another area of the country as the fruit is larger, about the size of an orange. The local variety is smaller than a golf ball. I never really thought that they grew somewhere else! Or that anyone would purchase them. My 'Tico' neighbours were very surprised when I actually planted some. |
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| Thanks for the good information on the Naranjilla's. I am in South Florida (Boca Raton). I have some plants that are about 5 months old. They flower a lot but no sign of any fruit. I am hoping the heat and sun won't prevent the fruit from growing. I like Michael Motes' information. Maybe I should build a shade barrier to block them from the sun also. I have been to Ecuador many times and love the fruit. I would also like to go see where they are grown over there. In Quito it is quite chilly. Hopefully I will not be wasting all my effort trying to grow them in South Florida. |
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RE: Naranjilla (solanum quitoense)
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| I'm not in California, in fact I'm a long way from CA, but I wondered, can anyone tell me when to pick my solanum quitoense (naranjilla)? I have a plant that's about 4 feet tall potted and it has several fruits on it, one is bigger than a golf ball and seems to be still growing. Am I right to think that they turn orange? Thanks for any help you can give me in advance as this is my first year growing these. |
RE: Naranjilla (solanum quitoense)
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| A followup on our naranjillas, which are spiny but which produce delicious fruit -- here in Oakland they really suffer from the heat even when in partial shade, and need lots of water. We've gotten only just a few tasty fruits from them and the fruits took a long time to mature. I don't think I water them often enough. I also think they like humidity and here it's pretty dry. But it's worth it -- this is one of my favorite fruits in the world. |
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