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Posted by hosenemesis z19SoCal (My Page) on Thu, Jul 3, 08 at 22:45
I'll start:
My worst garden nemesis is, of course, the common garden hose. That rant is on my personal page if you would like to see it. My SECOND worst garden nemesis is...
THE BUD WORM!!!
I just came in from spraying half my garden with BT (carefully, with a little, teeny-tiny hand squirt bottle so that I don't kill every moth and butterfly. I work hard to attract the little flying bugs, with plantings of the much-maligned passion vine, the poisonous CA milkweed, and the viciously spreading common mint).
If I don't BT on a weekly basis not a single blossom appears on my hummingbird sage or my trusty ivy geraniums. My Santa Barbara daisies, well, just forget it! They are toast.
What is your garden nemesis?
Renee |
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| Agreed about the garden hose. I have to look forwards and backwards at the same time (an anatomical impossibility for me) to have any hope of keeping it from damaging a plant, usually breaking off the one budding branch that I really wanted to see come into bloom. |
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I agree with Westelle, although I haven't had one yet this year... Other than that...ants farming aphids! |
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- Posted by youreit z9b CA Sunset z8-9 (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 4, 08 at 9:06
| Oooo, yeah, gophers for me, too. Haven't had too much damage from them this year, thanks in part, I think, to the family of barn owls nesting behind our house...with a very clear view of the entire front garden. :) Really enjoyed reading your rant about the hose, Renee! So funny yet true! LOVED viewing the pics of your beautiful garden on Picasa, as well. Brenda |
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| As I look at all the scabs on my arms I have to say the Giant Himalayan Blackberry introduced by Luther Burbank and escaped into the wild. I have tried several strategies and am currently working on persistence to keep any foliage from feeding the extensive underground root system. Not easy with a six acre property. Al |
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| The bermuda sneaking into the garden bed under the fence from the neighbors yard. A never-ending battle. |
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| We don't have bermuda problems here (Redhawk area of Temecula), but at our old home in San Diego, someone in the neighborhood planted it, and it took over the neighborhood. I hate it. Also, in desert areas it escapes and takes over dunes and sandy areas, as in Borrego Valley. People who go there in the spring to see the wildflowers have no idea how much better it was 40 years ago, before the bermuda took over. |
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| Thanks for the kind words, Brenda. Thanks to everyone else for putting my budworms into perspective! Is there really such a thing as a Giant Himalayan Blackberry? Makes my battle with the morning glory seem like picking daisies. |
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| Ditto on the neighbor's Bermuda and the tangled hose. I got a coil hose a few years ago thinking that would help. Ha! It's worse, especially as it gets older - the coils seem to jump together in a tangled mess. I'll also add the drip system - never ending revisions to get it right. I don't think there is such a thing. BettyN |
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- Posted by dicot Los Angeles (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 4, 08 at 16:33
Oooh, tough to pick one. The bermuda grass I've been slowly eradicating for 5 years as I turn the whole yard into natives/xeric plants probably wins, but the runner-ups include ... * The fusarium and rhizoctonia rots which occasionally strike. I lost all my lupines to crown rot last month; * Tens of thousands of aphids and the Argentian ants that love them; * Varmints. Neighbor cats that use it for a toilet and skunks that dig it up regularly. * my lack of an irrigation system. When I get busy, my yard suffers; Any or all of these could go away and I would be very happy about it. |
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| Without a doubt, my worst nemesis is the English Ivy that is always threatening to take over my yard. I could just strangle the dumb a@@ who planted it way back when (perhaps with one of the vines). |
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- Posted by babka 9/Sunset 15 (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 6, 08 at 0:45
| Mites. I'm outside every day checking things, and they still get the upper hand every once in a while. I can find them quickly on the broad-leaf plants, but on the conifers...not. |
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Hey dicot, I'm with you on the lack of an irrigation system! My main nemesis is, of course, the garden hose. Have you tried running pvc above-ground? It's cheaper than hoses, you can drill little holes into it for drip irrigation, you can connect it to hose spigots with sections of old hose and you can put battery timers on the spigots. You can change your garden lay-out at will without having to dig trenches. I spray-paint mine Camouflage Dark Brown to protect against sun damage and to help disguise it. I'll post a few photos if I find time today... Renee |
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- Posted by jenn SoCal-9/19 (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 6, 08 at 16:09
| Iephion bulbs! The cute little patch of grass-like leaves with a cute little periwinkle blue star-shaped flower on top. Do not be deceived by their innocent appearance -- they are like little devils in a tiny pink dress. They spread like wildfire in rich soil, which we apparently have in abundance. 4 or 5 bulbs planted several years ago have multiplied into HUNDREDS, possibly THOUSANDS of bulbs in those spots and have spread by seeds that fly into other areas. I've spent literally HOURS digging out hundreds of bulbs from a 1' square area, thinking I got them all...... but NO! They are back next year, in between other plants in places where I never planted them. Lesson learned: If a lot of tiny bulbs sell for very cheap with a description that says "Grows well in any kind of soil, sun or shade", avoid them like the plague! (unless you want that kind of plant...) |
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| Gosh! I truly thought I was the only one to habitually curse the hose! Oh how sweet to see it as an actual log- in name! I have found my equal! See, my DH is a calm, patient and methodical man who never understands my rants at the hose, nor my inability or desire to roll it up tidily after use. I feel so much better now. Thank you! My other nemesis is thrips. I mistakenly planted large, fast growing lovely looking trees for privacy only to soon discover they are a thrip magnet. They are now over 9 ft. tall. I hate the thought of taking them out, but neither systemic or spray insecticides have worked. The dang bugs keep coming back. The trees are on the side of the house and not near the garden, but I worry they will spread to my roses. :>( |
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| The wind! It's always blustery in the spring but usually lets up by this time. Of course I'll be saying "where's the wind!" in August when the temps heat up. No bugs to complain about here and the rabbits have stayed away for the last couple of years even with part of the fence down. I'm giving credit for that miracle to my neighbor's cats that come up at night and hang out on my deck. |
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 9, 08 at 1:06
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| My worst garden nemesis? Me. |
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| Spider mites and aphids.And some elephant ears that just can't be vanquished. |
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| The heat, gophers, stray cats and people that cut my flowers or steal my fruit. |
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I knew the responses of this group would crack me up. Nancy, you slay me. Hoovb, ditto! And leahcate, soul sister. I had to read your post out loud to DH. Just dug two wheelbarrows of dirt out from around some buried plants on the fenceline... ground squirrels next door. Some day soon I expect to hear a big Swoosh! and find that my neighbors have been swallowed up by a squirrel sinkhole. Especially if I keep running the hose down into those burrows (despite the price of water!). |
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- Posted by slogal CA z9/Sunset 15 (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 10, 08 at 0:06
| Ground squirrels. And skunks (I think). I read here on GW that they'll dig down into the soil looking for grubs -- we have holes in the ground that go nowhere, so I suspect skunks are responsible. I KNOW they're responsible for spraying my dog. Twice. So he's not fond of them either. |
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| snails my crappy soil vinca |
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| Eucalyptus globulus. You have weeds? How about hundred-foot-tall weeds? Cut them down, and the stumps sprout for years. Blink, and a sprout is twenty feet tall. Blink again, and it's gone to seed and there are ten more sprouts. It's driving me crazy. At least they smell nice. |
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- Posted by sumcool Cen. Coast/s17 (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 12, 08 at 20:28
Love the eucalyptus, hate when it has those babies. Abhor the gophers Love the hose, after finally hooking up to community water. It's wonderful to be able to water - and flush everytime.... |
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- Posted by di_h 10 (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 12, 08 at 22:52
squirrels cats squirrels ants squirrels caterpillars squirrels did I mention squirrels? |
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| ANTS!!! I hate ants crawling all over me when I am working in the garden HATE the ants that get on the hose then down my hands oh the ANTS!!!! |
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| Rabbits! Everyone thinks they're cute. I did too for the 1st two months I lived here. Most annuals are rabbit food. Perennials are rabbit food. Roses are rabbit food. Vegetables are rabbit food. Lawns are the worst! They eat weeds on the nearby hill, then wander down to my lawn to dump their weed-seed-filled pellets. My garden is a rabbit-proof-planting laboratory. I want a coyote to move in (not really, my dog fights them off). Also on my list: --Bermuda grass, spurge, crabgrass, clover, misc weeds; --gophers, moles, squirrels (rats with good PR), rats (squirrels with bad PR); --my dog, when he's not chasing rabbits; --my chickens, when they're in the vegetable garden or messing up my patio; --neighbors' dogs; --whatever disease is making my tomatoes wilt; --ants, black widows, pillbugs, snails, slugs, cutworms, miscellaneous disgusting bugs; --heat, frost, Santa Anas, June gloom; --palm tree seedlings and people who plant palm trees; --my local water company, which doesn't understand that people with half acre hills need more water than people without, even when the people with hills try to plant natives; --the local firefighters, who want all weeds cleared by June 1 and don't understand that natives are not weeds (just kidding about that last one -- we need the firefighters) But then I get one perfect rose and it's worth it all. I think. |
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- Posted by bob414 USDA 9, Sunset 15 (My Page) on
Tue, Jul 15, 08 at 10:13
| I guess I have all the earwigs since no one has mentioned them. The eat holes in everything and can devour a tender young plant overnight. |
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- Posted by slogal CA z9/Sunset 15 (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 16, 08 at 0:11
| Here's the best solution for earwigs -- and it's non-toxic: equal parts soy sauce, molasses and veggie oil. I usually put 2 TBSP each in an empty tuna can (the large size) or smaller amounts in empty cat food cans. The soy/molasses attracts the earwigs and the oil layer floats on top, preventing the earwigs from getting out. I buy gallon-size jugs at Smart 'n Final -- much less expensive than the smaller containers. You'll get a LOT of earwigs in these traps, and except for the odd snail or ladybug, that's all they entrap -- just earwigs. These have saved my zinnia seedlings more than once! |
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- Posted by bob414 USDA 9, Sunset 15 (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 16, 08 at 9:44
| Thanks for the tip Slogal. I'll give it a try. |
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- Posted by dis_ z9 CA (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 18, 08 at 3:39
| Your rant about the garden hose is so true. My yard is largish and I have to join a 100 foot hose to a 50 foot hose to get the curbside plants watered. Kinking, tangling and getting stuck on the blasted surface roots of my Kingan Fruitless Mulberry: I look forward to when I take it out and replace it with a London Plane Tree. I will have to put up with the hose until I can rig some sort of watering system. |
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| Spider mites! Of course I am sure they are mostly a problem because its a new garden and the soil is pretty crappy. Or am I delusional to hope the problem will get better as I improve the place I am planting in? |
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| Oh...so many...which to choose? Hmmm. I think I'll go with the hard clay soil. |
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| "Is there really such a thing as a Giant Himalayan Blackberry?" Boy, is there ever! Imagine inch-thick coils of botanical barbed wire that can increase their length by up to 14 inches in one day. They have three propagation mechanisms: they can grow from seeds that are widely dispersed by birds, they can tip root when their arching canes touch the soil (forming trip lines that are sure to snare you when the wheelbarrow is full of compost) and they can regrow from severed roots (so that the back-breaking labor of pulling them out is little more than an exercise in producing more of them). They are resistant to all but the most toxic herbicides. They will stall brush mowers by wrapping their tentacles around the blades and quickly clog chainsaws with tough strands of fiber. And if you ever managed to conquer them for a season, don't congratulate yourself too quickly. You will have a never-ending battle with bird-sown seedlings. |
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| Dicksonia, I am afraid of anything that has three methods of reproduction. Are you sure this plant is from the Himalalyas and not really an alien from another planet? "ANTS!!! I hate ants crawling all over me when I am working in the garden HATE the ants that get on the hose then down my hands oh the ANTS!!!!" I have been laughing about Socalgirl's post for a year now. Every time ants crawl up the hose on to my arms I squeal: "ANTS!!! oh the ANTS!!!!" and my husband cracks up. Renee |
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The soil or rather, the rocks, chalk and clay that makes up the top layers on our hill. Second, the gophers that not only destroy plants but also erode that hill. And just discovered, tree/roof rats! that ate every plum and every apricot from our trees - yikes! |
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1. Lack of rain 2. Almost pure clay soil except where I amended it 3. Bermuda grass that I am trying to eradicate from my garden and from around my fruit trees 4. Hillside that makes watering difficult without runoff and makes rototilling dangerous and strenuous 5. Roly Polys that eat young seedlings and tomatoes touching the ground 6. Green fruit beetles that eat my nectarines 7. Shade from plants my neighbor plants right on the property line that block sunlight to what I am trying to grow 8. Aphids and the ants that farm them 9. A newcomer this year, tiny black beetles that decimated my Swiss Chard. Luckily the chard acted as a magnet and kept them away from other vegetables 10. Scale insects on my citrus 11. White flies on my tomatoes 12. Spittle bugs on my rosemary 13. Big brown and little green grasshoppers on everything 6. Aphids |
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| For me it's the skunks. They think my garden shed is their personal Porta Potty and boy does it stink. I keep blocking entrances and they keep finding ways to get in. Last year I hired a trapper to take them away but all he caught was 2 opossums, a raccoon , and the neighborhood pussy cat. |
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Squirrels gophers ants,hate them crawling all over me as well. Lack of rain,and now we have to ration water,can only water sunday,tuesday and thursday for 10 minutes for the sprinklers. Mealybugs on amaryllis and cacti. Kathi |
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 17, 09 at 0:13
Yikes!
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 17, 09 at 0:17
| Yikes! I just noticed that I said the same thing on 7/17 as I did back on 7/9. Sorry 'bout that! Well...at least I'm consistent. :) |
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| Bermuda grass . . . but ask me in the wintertime and I'll probably say annual bluegrass instead. Honorable mentions go to ants, foxtails, spurge, and the neighbors who on multiple occasions have left their hose running for a week until our yard (which is lower than theirs) was a foot underwater. The best part is when I come home from a camping trip and notice it and go over to beg them to turn it off - only to find out they're on vacation themselves until who knows when. |
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| Nutsedge. Also known as nut grass. I'm not generally a woman inclined to faith or superstition, but this weed confirms the existence of the devil. The delicate thread tendrils that connect the plant to the "nut" always break when you dig the plant out. Unless you get the nut, too, you're just making it angry. Those nuts can be 2" down or 18" down. I have dug hundreds out of my vegetable garden this year. Over the winter, I'm going to go all medieval on them and use something nuclear. Oh, and I hate ficus plants. Vines or trees -- take your pick. |
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- Posted by nil13 z24 LA, CA (My Page) on
Tue, Jul 21, 09 at 20:47
| GOPHERS!!!! I don't know how many time I have told someone, "If I could wave a magic wand and make gophers extinct I wouldn't even hesitate." Ant farming aphids suck. Since the crazy cat lady in the neighborhood died, the strays have decided that the garden is a toilet. Unfortunately, they don't have a taste for gophers or I might not mind so much. Oh, asparagus fern can be a PITA. |
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I am experiencing a huge pillbug/sow bug/"rolypoly" population explosion. There are millions of tiny ones in addition to the many adults. They have eaten the bottom of the stalk & killed 3 green bean plants so far & are now gathering at the base of the tomato plants. I want to keep my garden organic. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks |
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| Perhaps the Sluggo Plus that helped with my earwig population explosion would help with your pillbugs. Nothing eats them, not even chickens, because they taste awful. Trust me. Really awful. Sluggo Plus is iron phosphate and Spinosad, a soil-dwelling bacterium. One of the other GardenWeb members recommended it earlier in the year, and it has been a lifesaver (or at least a lettuce and pepper saver). One 27.00 jug has treated my half-acre twice. Renee |
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Thank you for your answer, hosenemesis! Is Sluggo Plus considered organic? From what I understand, because they are crustaceans instead of insects, normal methods don't work on them. Thanks for the tip. |
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Hi shipwreck, The label here says it controls earwigs, cutworms, sowbugs, pillbugs, slugs and snails. Both iron phosphate and the bacterium in Spinosad are naturally occurring in soil. The warning label says not to get it in your eyes or to get it in water because it kills aquatic invertebrates (snails?). Most people consider it organic, I believe. Spinosad is like BT (Bacillus Thur something or another): a biological agent that infects only specific insects. Renee |
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| Thank you hosenemesis! I just ordered some. |
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I've just turned my soil and added my amendments. The soil is full of big fat healthy grubs. This tells me that the critters will soon be here. No sooner did I put in my little lettuce transplants than those pesky varmints had a digging party in my garden. They also unplanted my strawberry transplants. I will stop doing anything else with the garden this fall season as it's just beyond me how to solve this problem. The plot is in a community garden, not at my house. Are the critters coming from over the fence (raccoons, skunks, opposums) or are they tunneling in? I just know it's those grubs they are after. Two years ago I about had a meltdown trying to deal with it. Any ideas? Milky spore? Nematodes? I don't want to spend a lot of money. I'm thinking of digging out all soil and putting in gopher barriers or just putting boards down and planting in containers with potting soil. What to do?? Thanks, Mary |
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| Gophers or moles. New this year. And the lovely neighbor on one side that stopped mowing his side yard. I think its a mole from his patch of 4' tall weeds. The lovely neighbor on the other side who trimmed my rose bush when it grew taller than the fence. (No, I didn't want those rosebuds!?!) The Bermuda grass. The bermuda grass growing under the sidewalk. When I dig it out on one side or the other, it grows back from under the sidewalk. I was planning on digging out the bermuda and replacing with drought tolerant plants, but I don't know what the mole (unless its a gopher) would think of that. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to just to have the rodents revolt. :-( Holes from burrowing rodents. |
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| Mary- we use two methods to prevent the raccoons and opossums from digging in our beds: 1. 2x4" pig wire. Fasten it right over your tilled earth after you sow your seeds and let the plants grow through it. 2. Take pvc, make a square the size of your bed, put a T in the middle of the north and south sides, and bend another piece of pvc into an upside down U and slip the ends into the Ts. Cover with bird netting, very light shade cloth, or chicken wire. I also screen the dirt and feed the grubs to the chickens. Renee |
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Renee, you rock! Thank you! There are chickens just down the hill from my garden; I may do that next week. Thank you, Mary |
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| 1.) roof rats - Evidently they have occupied our neighborhood for years. I tried everything before finally resorting to poison (in secured) bait boxes. Within a week we found and disposed of 7 dead and nearly dead rats in the yard. They took the first half of my tomato harvest this season. 2.) oxalis pes-caprae also known as Bermuda Buttercup. Grows all over the yard year round with yellow flowers throughout cool season. Try getting this stuff out of planting beds...impossible! It grows from bulbs which I've found as deep as 18 inches in my beds. It just keeps coming back!!!! Argh!!! |
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| Gophers, and lately, the neighbor's chickens. Who knew that chickens could wreak such havoc?? |
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1. SQUIRRELS 2. birds eating my fruit 3. the more than 100 ft tall oaks and redwoods that my neighbors grow in a 100x80 piece of land 4. the neighbor's gardener who blows all their leaves into my property 5. The out of control English Ivy - from the other side neighbor that tries to invade my property on a daily basis. Those oaks and redwoods in the neighbor property are diseased, drop TONS of leaves all over my property, and I cannot plant anything that will grow because my whole yard is covered in shade. I am a tree lover, but, what is the point of growing 100 ft trees with monster roots uprooting all landscaping in a small backyard? |
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| Aha! AshleySF, you have squirrels and birds because of the oaks (tasty acorns!). I *love* my oaks and redwoods, but I have space for them, and they do not border on any neighbor (and never will). I enjoy watching all the wildlife -- just not the chickens, so much. Now if they would lay eggs in MY yard, that would be another matter... ;-) |
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| Voodoobrew- I'm with you on the chickens. And every gardening magazine has a lovely article with photos of spectacular, exotic chickens wandering about the garden "eating insects and weeds" and "tilling the soil" and "fertilizing". I believed those articles- until the first day that I let my new chickens out to free-range. Renee |
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| This has been fascinating and also a bit scary since I wasn't aware of many of the aggravations that plague gardeners. Since I water only with a hose I do have the hose problem. Fortunately (as I can see now) I don't grow vegetables and don't have fruit trees except a grapefruit tree (we don't like grapefruits) from which the squirrels help themselves to fallen fruit. Strangely enough, even though I live in the country and have rabbits, squirrels, roof rats, skunks, gophers, grasshoppers, aphids, ants and snails, the only real problem is gophers and I have to confess that, even though I never use other poisons or chemicals, we do put poison down the gopher holes and then cover the holes thoroughly with soil. It has worked every time. I grow antique roses and companion plants and strangely neither the squirrels nor the rabbits have taken much interest. After reading the above comments, I count myself very fortunate indeed. |
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| ants farming aphids, they killed my black eyed peas, 3 zucs, got into my last bed of sweet corn, injuring the ears, causing corn smut, had to pull up the last 2 beds, you could try DE for the earwigs, it worked on the ants finally, but get the garden type not the pool type. It would probably work on the sowbugs too. It's for hard bodied bugs it cuts them up and they dehydrate and die. |
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| Nematode. Anyone know of a good cure? I've tried sugar, molasses, heating the soil w/ black plastic, extra compost. Nothing has worked so far. |
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| Whoa, I agree with LOTSA stuff already stated. I once made the comment that San Pedro was the ant, slug and snail capital of SoCal. I also hate nutsedge and DANDELIONS and fight a daily battle with my clay soil. Not too crazy about bindweed either. MaryO |
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| I guess that I should consider myself lucky that the only thing that really, really bothers me and my garden are the gophers. |
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