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Why yes, we are thrilled...

Posted by jubilante CA 9 (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 7, 14 at 20:26

Wouldn't you be excited about an addition to the neighbor's home on a permit they've had for 20 years? Silver lining is we haven't re-landscaped the backyard yet.
How would you work with this? Looking for something low maintenance, low water, legal. :)


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RE: Why yes, we are thrilled...

I guess they added a second story to an existing house. Their sense of color is unusual. I would paint the fence a reasonable color to make it disappear into the plant material. The house would look better, not seen as well. Decide how high a screen would need to grow to conceal the house without taking up too much of your yard, and start planting. Al


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Tall, tall screening plants. And additional 4' lattice attachment on top of the existing fence. Fence is a fine color, just plant up against it. Color of the house in construction plywood, Al. I don't think the final stucco has been applied, yet, so hopefully, the final color will not be too unattractive. Pittosporum is a nice choice, but I think we have an entire FAQ on our forum for screening suggestions.

Patty S.


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  • Posted by susanc Z9/Sunset 17 CA (My Page) on
    Fri, Aug 8, 14 at 15:21

My neighbors grew Clytostoma callistegiodes, lavender trumpet vine, up a tall lattice frame to screen out their neighbors. It's lovely, fast growing up to 15/20 feet, and pretty drought tolerant once established. Here's a pic from Pasadena Water Saving plants, www.pasadena.watersavingplants.com, showing what it can do:


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Sat, Aug 9, 14 at 21:26

what sunset zone are you in? It can make a big difference.

Here, you only have so long on your permit. if the time runs out you have to go through the approval process again.


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I think we are Sunset 15. Some frost.

They have paid a yearly (?) fee, with not so much as pushing dirt around, and now Monterey County does not even hold them to today's codes. Don't get me going...


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  • Posted by nil13 z21 L.A., CA (Mt. Wa (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 10, 14 at 12:47

Yeah, you can renew a permit for quite awhile if you stay on top of it, though 20 years is pretty rare.

If you are goibg to add to the fence, I would wait until they are finishedand havetheir CO. Most places limit fence height to 6 foot but don't enforce it unless someone complains. However, if there is an inspector coming around you could get dinged. Better to wait for the inspector's work to be done next door before breaking code.


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I thought I posted but it vanished

Do you have a "View Ordinance"?

You might want to look for a tree that has more of an umbrella shape to cover your yard and give some privacy. It will change the use of the rest of the yard and give you more a shade garden.

We have a similar issue with a neighbor who's deck is just above their fence height and under a massive oak tree (protected) so little we can do to block their view of us other than shade tolerant vines.


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Mon, Aug 11, 14 at 14:44

You can grow some great stuff in 15. I'd select a tallish shrub of rather narrow habit, evergreen. Don't use a tree when a large shrub will do the job. Even though your neighbors might not be ideal, don't make the situation worse by planting a monster that is going to invade their yard. It's not going to help.

'Ray Hartman' Ceanothus? Fast growing. Can be limbed up as a tree.

Maybe one of the Pittosporum tenifolium selections that are narrow-ish growers? How hot is your summer--they like more coastal conditions.

A trio of Italian Cypress 'Swane's Golden', not in a line but in a triangle--looks better.

A trio of the vertical growing Junipers like J. columnnaris selections, or other vertical growers.

Many many options. Just some possible examples to throw out and get you thinking. Don't worry--select carefully, and you'll end up with some beautiful shrubs that make you happy and improve your yard, and you'll forget all about what is next door.


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Rhus integrifolia a native, evergreen, grows fast, requires no summer water once established. Grows erect, not messy, excepts pruning to shape. Grows to 20 feet. Al


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Tue, Aug 12, 14 at 11:11

Rhus integrifolia. Yes that's a nice plant. They grow wild around here and make a nice tall screen.


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Thanks!
Any other ideas, fire away!
Looking forward to planting in Oct/Nov when our favorite nursery has a good sale.


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Myrica californica is an awesome evergreen native screening plant.
I also second Pittosporum tenuifolium. Choose a cultivar that suits your needs. planting the same variety will help for a uniform look if that's what you want. 'Silver Sheen' is a nice one, as is 'Harley Botanica'.
Prunus ilicifolia is another nice TALL evergreen native. Bees go crazy for the flowers.


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  • Posted by catkim San Diego 10/24 (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 14, 14 at 13:06

From a design perspective, we need to see more of your garden to getter a better idea of how to artfully screen. We can't see how much room you have to work with, or what is already in place. Show a photo of what your garden looks like from their perspective. They don't want to look at you any more than you want to look at them, so don't rule out the idea that they may plant their own screen. Although, if it took them 20 years to make good on the building permit... ;-)


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 14, 14 at 15:06

what that construction is is truly crappy design. they could have put clerestory windows, or put the windows on the side walls, and/or added skylights. They'll have a window they'll never feel comfortable opening (unless they want to look at your yard). If they have a sense of humor, put two chairs and a telescope pointed at those windows in your back yard.

We've got a window like that in our master bath looking right into the neighbor's patio. I put a solid blind over it when we moved in and haven't raised the blind it since except to clean and repaint. Stupid place for a window. Luckily we have three other large windows and a skylight in the bathroom. Plenty of air and light. The neighbor-facing window really shouldn't be there at all since it is useless. I did plant a hedge of Syzygium, but it has taken time to reach the window height, as the property drops down behind the house.


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