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pruning camellias

jwb55
18 years ago

I just retired and have decided to try my hand at gardening. The home we bought has 3 large camellia bushes (about 15-20 ft) and my husband decided to "trim" them up off the ground. Well he trimmed them up about 4 ft. off the ground, cutting off all the limbs. NOT what I wanted. Will they fill in again or am I stuck with them this way? Wanda

Comments (23)

  • forrestal
    18 years ago

    Just a few rambling thoughts on the subject... I don't know if this is exactly what you want to hear, but here goes: camellias grow as if they were trees (which they are) and thus most of the new growth is toward the ends of the limbs. Sometimes, where a hard pruning is made, one will see some new growth sprout from the lower and interior trunk areas, but not very much -- it won't ever "fill in" down low, like the bushy shrub you had before. The top, however, will look great.

    But don't despair, one of the neat things about camellias is that, if you really want that full-length shrubby look, it can be pruned all the way back to a stump and it will bush back out (although you may lose a couple years' blooms).

    Why not give this "new look" a year or two -- first for your husband's ego, and second to see how you like it. You may be surprised. I have some old ones we pruned into "tree form" and we love them -- they get many compliments because most people never see them pruned that way. Very handsome and distinctive.

    Limbing up a camellia (as your husband did) is an instant "makeover" technique for a leggy or unthrifty camellia. And as I say, if you still hate it, whack it back next winter to a stump of about 18 inches and let it grow back out as a shrub. They can take it.

  • gurley157fs
    18 years ago

    To add to the excellent advice above;

    My two nieghbors and I have camellias and sasanquas that are over 50 years old. At one house almost all of hers are trimmed to a tree form - they are spectacular in winter and spring. The other has the shrub form - the usual stuff - they both have several beautiful varieties.
    I had to remove all but one of the original shrubs, it was over 15 feet tall. I cut it to one third of its hieght. The first year it was horrendous but now, entering it's third season as a much smaller shrub it is very attractive. Unfortuneatly it is a common variety, very pretty nontheless.

  • varmi
    18 years ago

    Gurley, do you know the names of these old camellias?

  • lindawdw
    17 years ago

    I am a new member and I was wondering if anyone can offer some suggestions for an attractive shape for a sassanqua camellia that we have on one of the front corners of our house. This shrub is fairly young and is about 5 feet tall. Currently, it is roughly oval in shape. I was thinking about trimming it into a tree shape, but am unsure if this would be appropriate for this location in my landscape. If I choose a tree shape, what shape would you suggest for the top? No matter what shape I choose, should I start the process now or wait for it to grow taller? How many of the lower branches should I remove initially? Should I just remove a few branches now and then remove more as the camellia grows taller or should I trim off the lower branches to a certain height right away? Thanks to anyone who can offer assistance.

  • randie_2006
    17 years ago

    Having just recently bought a home in central N.C. I have 2 camillia bushes or trees on my property. How do I identify the species of camillia?

  • catmad
    17 years ago

    Good morning,
    This spring I moved into an upstate SC home with three Camellia bushes. They were nicely shaped, about 6 feet high, on either side of my walkway. As the spring and summer went on, they made it more and more difficult to walk thru the entry, but as they seemed covered with buds, I didn't want to prune them. They bloomed spectacularly this fall, but seem about finished. I was going to attempt to get them back under control, but see they still have some buds. These are much smaller than the others were, so now I'm worried that if I cut them, I'll be eliminating future flowers. What do I do? These are white, I have another red plant, much smaller, and just at it's peak, I think, a bit later than the white. I have no idea what variety they are, former homeowner was clueless. Is there a website or book which can give me more direction> I'd hate to hurt them :(.
    Thanks,
    Margo

  • socks
    17 years ago

    Catmad, others here know much more than I, but I have a camellia like yours which tries to branch out over the walk. A couple times during the year (especially when it's getting new growth) I take the clippers and just clip off any growth that looks like it is going to branch out over the walk. I don't do it like trimming a hedge, I clip selected growth back to a growth point so the bush still looks good.

    The bush is tall and slim, but very bushy and it's not blocking the walk.

  • camelliaalan
    13 years ago

    I hope someone can help on this... about 6 weeks ago, one of our 10-15' tall camellias toppled over and we had it moved, but the leaves are now all "crispy" and brown and there is no visible growth from the stems.

    The stems, though, are still green inside.

    New growth has sprouted from the ground.

    I've been advised to:

    1. do nothing, and give the camellia a year to see if the limbs eventually do start producing new growth

    2. prune the shrub to the ground to give the new "ground growth" a better chance

    3. prune some of the branches, but try to retain the original shape.

    Which of these is the best approach?

    We live in NC, and the camellia used to bloom during the winter and often again in early spring.

    Thanks much for any advice!

    Alan

  • mmurdock_wctel_net
    13 years ago

    I have 3 camelia bushes/shrubs/trees each about 10 ft. tall. The one in the center is in the corner of our house & getting squeezed out by the other 2 in their competition for air/light/nutrition. I would like to move the center one & therefore give each more space. Obviously, they were planted too closely together in the first place. Will the transplant work? When should it be done? These are all winter/spring bloomers.

  • rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7
    13 years ago

    Merv, the best way to insure that your questions get answered is to post a brand new question under your own heading. The original question in this thread is dated july, 05. Few of us follow up on such old threads.

    I'm afraid that I would simply cut down and eliminate the center camellia, rather than risking damaging all of them by an invasive transplanting process.

    In your new thread, be sure to tell us how far the trunks are from each other. You might title this thread "Transplanting mature Camellias".

  • luis_pr
    13 years ago

    Also, include a picture(s) if you can.

  • chrisef
    10 years ago

    I can use some help here as well. We recently moved to a house with some overgrown camellias. Three of them are right next to the house and are beautiful trees. However, they are growing into the side of the house. I'd like to keep them but they would need a drastic pruning. I've been reading that I can basically cut them down to a trunk. Is this really the case? Will this shock the plant into sending up some new shoots from the root system? My husband is all for cutting them out completely but I'd hate to do that. If I could make them into shrubs again I think I could save them. Can you give me some specific directions for the prune and when to do it? We live in the mt. area of GA and they have just started to bloom in October. Thanks!

  • jamesmaloy
    10 years ago

    chrisef,I hesitate to give instructions because I live in North Florida and you in North Ga. and I fear I don't know enough about your local climate, but here I would cut the camellia back as soon as it finished flowering. Dig your new hole first making sure you give it adequate space from buildings light wires overhead and other shrubs,walksways etc. Then dig plant with as many roots as possible, replant, water, mulch, and hope for the best and remember to water regularly even in winter so the roots to not get dry, Hope this is helpful.
    James in Florida

  • jsrosebud2
    7 years ago

    Would I have to root prune 3-4 ft. camellias(that are not over 6yrs old) to transplant them? Raleigh Rosebud

  • luis_pr
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I did NOT root prune the only one I moved some years ago. I tried to get as many roots as I could; dug the new hole before moving the plant; made sure the root ball did not break apart; watered before transplanting; watered after transplanting; added mulch.

  • jsrosebud2
    7 years ago

    Thanks,did it survive and how old was it? R 2

  • pkillham
    6 years ago

    I just purchased two sassanqua in large pots probably 15 gallons or more over 4 feet tall. Probably, a mistake. The problem is that there are two trunks of approximately the same size coming out of the pot. Should Try to separate them, prune one, or leave them as they are?

  • luis_pr
    6 years ago

    Oh, I would not prune. There is nothing wrong with that. It is common to have a plant with a single trunk but it is equally normal to see some plants with two trunks, like in a Crape Myrtle.

    I too bought a large specimen once. More than 10 years ago. It was a Camellia Debutante. Paid a bundle but, I got a large shrub that was fantastic looking when blooming! Hope you enjoy yours.

  • Karen Edwards
    6 years ago

    Have a question. I have a Sassanqua that I planted in our shade garden 19 years ago. It's about 6' tall and 8' wide and until winter 2015 looked beautiful. We had a very hard winter that year (-5 as lows for several days) and most of it died back. There is one long limb that is untouched, and some minor new growth at the bottom. I have left it alone now for almost 2 years hoping it would recover -- but am thinking that I would like to try pruning it back to see if it bushes out again, or if I need to remove it and start over. We are in zone 7a so kind of at the edge of its cold tolerance. When should I prune? should I leave the one long branch alone and just cut out the dead wood?

  • luis_pr
    6 years ago

    Dead wood can be cut at any time. "Living" wood can be cut after they bloom (just so you get to enjoy bloomage). Pruning in the winter months, when it is semi-dormant, would be best for the shrub.

  • Robin Daigle
    last year

    I inherited a beautiful yard from the previous owner. It is lined with camellias trees that bloom in the winter (Louisiana). I am terrified of not taking care of them properly. They are about 20-foot tall and probably around 60 yrs old. I noticed virginia creeper and ivy growing on the tops of the trees. Is this something I need to invest in controlling or can I leave them be?

  • luis_pr
    last year
    last modified: last year

    Camellias have shallow roots and ivy & weeds do as well so I would not ignore this since the ivy/weeds may compete for water and nutrients.

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