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Posted by longriver SF Bay Area (My Page) on Sun, Nov 23, 08 at 14:55
| I have an early bloom Camellia japonica seedling The flower is deep bright red. The flower is over 4 and 1/2 inches in diameter without gibbing. It has about 3 circles petals. The leaves are very thick and large like that of 'Mrs. D W Davis'. as attached picture.
I know there are so many large red camellia flowers. I was going to produce a red rose form double. But it turn out to be only semidouble.
Please make one vote on the flower as follows:
GOOD, keeper
TOO ORDINARY, understock |
Here is a link that might be useful: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a182/wangjohn666/_DSC0001jpg-1.jpg
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| I think it's very elegant. GOOD. |
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| I like the ruffled look on flowers so I vote GOOD too. But change the color to something closer to purple (or yellow) and GOOD becomes OHMYGOD! or GOTTAHAVEIT!. |
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It is a beautiful flower of Camellia. She remembers hybrid his ' ROSALÍA OF CASTRO '. ' ROSALÍA OF CASTRO ' has begun his flowering in November. The hybrids of Camellia reticulata with Camellia japonica, take leaves as those of your beautiful camellia. Also she me resembles ' ROYAL VELVET ' and 'ROYALTY'.
Congratulation for your new flower of Camellia.
Regards.
Daniel. Longriver Camellia semidouble red.
 
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- Posted by bboy z8 WA USA (My Page) on
Fri, Nov 28, 08 at 16:17
| I like the structure but I'd like it better if the coloring was even all the way through the flower. As shown here it appears to have fading near the margins. Something should really be a huge departure or leap forward to be named and introduced. As the rose has become the plaything of the commercial hybridist, so the camellia has become the toy of both the commercial and the amateur gardener. Far too many scarcely separable sports (mutations) have been made separate entities. In fact, a single bush may embrace three cultivars. At the present time, named cultivars of this species are numbered in thousands and are constantly being added to --Hillier Nurseries, The Hillier Manual of Trees & Shrubs (2002, David & Charles, Newton Abbot) |
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reminds me of a darker red version of 'don mac' and agree with ron's critique - nice form but a color that has a bit more purple in the red that affects the appeal (to me).
size is impressive and i'm sure you are proud of it.
good going. i would love one in white or pink! |
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| Many thanks. Your opinions help me to shape up my breeding work. The purplish color is indeed on the picture. I believe that might be due to the light and perception on digital image showing more trace blend of blue. The digital image has this tendency in cloudy day or under shade even I have a not bad camera(unless I know how to make exact proper adjustment on my camera). Notice that the leaves and black plastic container at back have a shade of blue. The flower color is actual all solid red, no purple background. |
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| jeff al: You like pink and white? I have one hybrid registerd (in China) already. The flower is rather large between pink and white called 'Sheng Jie' meaning 'Holy Purity'. |
Here is a link that might be useful: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a182/wangjohn666/RetiHybridShengJie.jpg
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Many of my camellia friends in U S would be wondering how come my seedlings offen sent to China for evaluation?
1. Because one new seedling plant should be cultivated at different regions for evaluation.
2. Camellia business market in China is very huge, about one half of China in south are suitable to grow camellia open on ground.
3. So many people will let you know which flower is the most favorite one.
4. China has almost 95% of camellia species. There are about 200 to 250 camellia species. It has been always a hot debated subject by camellia classification scholars. My hobby is camellia breeding. It is better to be associated with camellia experts in China. By the way, I was born in China. Revisiting my childhood areas is fun. If I had been an Italian American, I would visit Italy many times to enjoy great Italian art, music, opera and food. |
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| As you know, the look of the flower is only half the story. Also important for judging the commercial merit of a new camellia cultiva are these attributes: 1) hardiness of foliage,
2) hardiness of buds,
3) lasting quality of the blooms,
4) substance of the petals,
5) fragrance (if any),
6) shape and form of the plant (upright/spreading/compact,etc.
7) bloom period These factors are of interest especially to those of us in marginal camellia-growing climates.
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| Dave: You a have very good list, very much idendically in my mind. Each attribute can be elaborated much more further. For example about fragrance that is a personal preference and experience, involved also about intensity and the quality. Some old people and smokers would have less ability to detect the delicate fragrance. Some like the scent of sasanqua and others hate that moldy type acent. Every one likes 'High Fragrance' but a rare few feel sick to smell 'High Fragrance'. Therefore I intend to develop the camellia fragrance has a universal appeal. Easy Task? No! No! I know a few persons been working on camellia breeding for over 20 years, producing only 1-2 new camellias or even nothing. It is actually up to personal standard, how good is good enough to release. For cold hardy camellias? well, that is about to entering twilight zone in specialized area. However one camellia flower can not win all. If a new camellia has certain high points, it is good enough for some gardeners. |
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| Well, whatever the hardiness of your seedling, we'd be so pleased to see it thrive here in our region. It's beautiful. |
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Dave: This red camellia flower is not cold hardy one. It is just a regular new large size C. japonica. My cold hardy ones are still on the way of developing in very young seedling stage. It is a step by step process, not a one shoot action. It takes time for evaluation, and planing for further strategy. This project is a joint effort invoved camellia lovers in China and France.
We should communicate on e-mail. |
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| From what I know about you --having been to your place and have seen many of your flowers/seedlings,and have had a few of them myself, I know your standards to be very high . Now its not a "bad" flower but unless this has some fragrance ,you might want to hold off on this one |
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| Thanks,cervelo: That is exactly what I am intended to do. Set it aside in my yard for a few years. Sometimes it can be used as a mother plant, or as a gift to my friend. You are hitting a targe that is in the area of fragrant camellia. This year for the first time one of my fragrant seedlings producing the fragrance with intended intensity, early fragrance release, lasting fragrance till wilting, less temperature dependence and desirable profile. Even the flower is only a simple beauty, it is worthy for propagation.( please see a web site: http://www.camelliaweb.org/ at gallery in my 'teaflower' section) |
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I am happy on having seen that You are an active member of our society International Camellia Society. I have seen, the article in the International Camellia Journal, of Mr. You Muxian, in which You and Mr. Greg Davis, our president of the ICS, visit Tengchong. I me am glad to have it as companion in the ICS.
Regards.
Daniel Dominguez Fernandez oKintos |
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