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Handling Rust when Fungicides Aren't an Option?

maywren
18 years ago

Hi There:

Before the hurricanes, my cannas were located along what you'd call a lake margin. The soil was very moist, but not innundated. Now, of course, they're standing in about 1.5 feet of water, which hasn't bothered them at all. They've multiplied at an astounding rate and are blooming nicely.

But now, for the first time since I planted them two years ago, they've been hit hard by rust. And, of course, I can't use a fungicide near the water. If I simply cut them back, will they re-leaf this year? (I'm not very experienced with canna behavior.) Is there a non-toxic rust controller?

At the Kanapaha Botanical Garden, they just sort of let their cannas go--to the leaf rollers and the rust. There are just too many there to fuss. By the end of the summer though, the cannas look pretty ratty.

Any suggestions?

Comments (5)

  • jenna1
    18 years ago

    I honestly don't have any experience with anything that would or wouldn't be environmentally safe for something that's actually in the water. But did have a couple thoughts that may help a little.

    The first one is to cut the infected leaves off and either burn them or put them into your garbage can. Definitely don't compost them if you're a composter. After the cannas have flowered you can cut the stalks down and get rid of them.

    In the meantime, once you've cut the 'bad' leaves off, mix a little dish detergent in water and spray the rest of the plant. Since rust spores are soil based, and spread by winds/breezes, this may help to keep it in check temporarily so that you can enjoy the blooms.

    Being in Florida, I would imagine that they will put out new growth and that you'll get flowers again if you're going to just cut them completely back.

    Jenna

  • sinner_gurl
    18 years ago

    Someone on GW once recommended cinnamon for a fungicide. I tried it and it worked. It is also said to repel ants but I haven't tried it for that. I don't think it would hurt to 'experiement' on one plant to see if it works on rust as well.

  • scottlk
    18 years ago

    I'd go to home depot and buy a spray bottle of air duct cleaner. It's a solution of chlorine dioxide that is meant to be sprayed into your HVAC air ducts to kill mold / spores / bacteria and what not. Cl. dioxide solutions are also used as a commercial food prep / produce disenfectant and I recall reading somewhere that some grape grower was trying it on there grapes. It should probably be safe for the plant (it is NOT like a bleach solution) - but I'd try just one leaf to make sure first though...

    (it's also used as a water purification agent so it will not be toxic to the lake)

    From the net:

    "Vegetables washing

    Chlorine dioxide is an excellent product for washing vegetables. The ability to kill spores, viruses and fungi at low concentrations is essential.

    ClO2 is a proven product that can be used to solve several food-related problems. It does not affect taste, odour or appearance. It is safe to use and complies with food regulations. Below are some examples where chlorine dioxide has been applied.

    Apples: control of E.Coli and listeria bacteria's
    Potatoes: protection against "late blight" and "silver scurf"
    Lettuce, celeries and onions: compared to hypochlorite the vitamin-c content resulted higher and the potassium content lower
    Citrus fruits: protection against "green mould" and "sour rot" proved to be successful at several pH values, low concentrations and limited contact time. "

    Just make sure it doesn't take out the leaf as well!

  • beachplant
    18 years ago

    I let mine go, at the end of the season they do look awful but I have tons of butterflies and they come back fine next year. Some years the rust seems to be more of a problem then others, like when we have a tropical storm or hurricane. Good luck! Tally HO!

  • maywren
    Original Author
    18 years ago

    Thanks to all of you for your helpful answers. As they've bloomed themselves out now, I'm going to wade into the water and cut down the worst stalks and burn them. Some new shoots are coming up and are about knee high now. Next year, I'll probably try the cinnamon suggestion before moving on to anything stronger. Thanks again.