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Identifying Trovita vs. Seedless Valencia
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Posted by cebury 9, Fresno CA (My Page) on Wed, Feb 3, 10 at 1:45
| How do you tell the difference between Trovita and Seedless Valencia? Were there seedless (like Midknight) available for planting 20 years ago?
I have an orange tree in my backyard -- it was near death when I moved here and this year finally has a large fruit set. It set one fruit last year, which I thought was navel by ripening date and flavor, but navel end wasn't obvious -- so I assumed it was Valencia.
If Valencia, I assumed they would start ripening by March in my area, at the very soonest. However, they are full, softening, and were starting to drop two weeks ago -- Yesterday I pulled off 5 of the softer oranges and they were mildly tart, but sweet enough for me eat (i.e. not like my Wash Navel). They juiced just fine w/a small bit of sugar. NONE had seeds. Skin wasn't overly thin or thick (not thick like Wash, but not thin like clementine mand).
How can I differentiate between a Trovita and Valencia (seedless) or do I have a new sport on my hands ;-) : by fruit (shape, rind, seeds, cling past one season) or leaf (petiole, blossom, thorns, etc). Perhaps do only Valencias re-green?
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Follow-Up Postings:
RE: Identifying Trovita vs. Seedless Valencia
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| I'm not a citrus expert but my understanding is that Trovita has a thicker rind than Valencia and is easier to peal. |
RE: Identifying Trovita vs. Seedless Valencia
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| thisisme is correct. Also, Trovita has "extra" small sections at the bloom end like other navels. |
RE: Identifying Trovita vs. Seedless Valencia
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So you think this is likely Trovita? The oranges are cut in half (both ways) and it peeled easily, just like my navels. They still aren't sweet enough yet. Also, this is the 1st year the tree has produced since I revived it (starting many years back). I picked these off the tree since they were the larger ones, which on our other trees is not uncommon for the rind to be so thick for the "overgrowns" in our area. |
RE: Pic
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| The IMG html didn't work for skydrive pics. So you think this is likely Trovita? The oranges are cut in half (both ways) and it peeled easily, just like my navels. They still aren't sweet enough yet. Also, this is the 1st year the tree has produced since I revived it (starting many years back). I picked these off the tree since they were the larger ones, which on our other trees is not uncommon for the rind to be so thick for the "overgrowns" in our area. |
RE: Identifying Trovita vs. Seedless Valencia
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| can't view the picture still ... |
RE: Identifying Trovita vs. Seedless Valencia
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Wow, something changed on their side that time. 3rd time a charm? Is this a Trovita? TIA Put it as optional link also. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Trovita Orange Pic
re: must be
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| Since it peeled so easily, it's almost ripe now in mid-Feb (but not sweet enough yet), I guess it should be a Trovita. Unless there is (another) Navel sport that doesn't have a prominent navel/double fruit end? Or vice versa, a type of Valencia that has a thicker rind and easy to peel. |
RE: Identifying Trovita vs. Seedless Valencia
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| My bet is that its a Trovita. For sure its not a Seedless Valencia. |
RE: Identifying Trovita vs. Seedless Valencia
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| I'd say it's a valencia, because Trovia should be plenty sweet way before February. |
RE: Identifying Trovita vs. Seedless Valencia
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| Fruitvibes, I think you are incorrect but your post is very helpful :) I had to leave town for a week but minutes before I left I noticed a dozen or so had fallen what had been the past couple days. I squeezed a few and sure enough they were softening already. I opened a few and only one was sweet, the others were more acidic. Looks like the tree retained a few too many, since I discovered a few branches hanging over my neighbors fence with LOTS of small ones. Remember this tree looked like dead sticks many years ago, I didn't know what it was, but after nursing it back to health, this is the first year it has produced a crop. The branches are still few, scraggly and it's a quite bit under-leaved IMO. By next year it should be great. Thanks for taking the time to view and reply. |
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