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New lemon tree. Should I be worried about leaves and bugs?

Posted by angela1234 none (My Page) on
Wed, Mar 26, 14 at 17:24

I've been wondering this forum for the last two days trying to get all the information that I can. Let me first say that I'm not very good with plants and I really want this one to survive.

I got an improved meyer lemon tree from my sisters for my birthday and it arrived last Friday. I live in Pittsburgh, PA (where it just snowed last night :() and I have a sylvania spot gro light shining on it that I got from Lowes but I'm not sure if it is working. I live in a condominium building and my windows only face east. I did get some daylight CFLs to replace the light and I'm hoping that my building will let me move the tree up to the roof deck once it is warmer but I'm a little bit worried that someone might tamper with my tree because it's a communal area.

These are the bulbs I bought. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018OS06S/ref=ox_ya_os_product_refresh_T1

The tree came in a black pot with soil already in it. I watered it once last Saturday and made sure that the water drained out of the bottom of the pot. The soil still seems slightly damp. Should I repot the tree right away? I've been reading about the 5-1-1 and gritty mix. The leaves are getting lighter with dark veins. What could be wrong? I also noticed there are tiny white bugs in the soil which I am pretty sure are springtails. They are too small and quick for me to catch a good picture. I've seen some people say that they are beneficial and only eat decomposing stuff and some say they might start eating the roots. Should I try to get rid of them? Lastly, it had new growth coming off of the top but all of the leaves fell off of the new growth.

Any and all advice is welcome :) I'll post more pictures following because it seems like you all like to see pictures.


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RE: New lemon tree. Should I be worried about leaves and bugs?

A look at the leaves


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The soil


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The leaves fell off when I touched the new growth.


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a pic of a leaf


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RE: New lemon tree. Should I be worried about leaves and bugs?

Congratulations, that's a beautiful tree! :)

The second to the last picture (where you're showing the new growth) looks almost like scarring from citrus leaf miners. Look up pictures of CLM and see if it matches anything you see on the tree. Could be old, too, in which case, I wouldn't worry about it.

New growth tends to be lighter in color but it looks almost like magnesium deficiency due to the christmas tree pattern. If you do decide to add magnesium, also consider adding calcium as they come as a pair and too much of one prevents the tree from using the other one. Try to get a good fertilizer with magnesium and calcium in addition to a good NPK ratio. I believe that everyone likes Dyna Gro here.

The speckling on your leaves could also have come from spider mites. They look like tiny dark or red pinpoints that move. See anything like that on your tree?

I'm still in the process of trying 511 myself but I've heard nothing but good things about it. It almost doesn't matter how damp or wet the soil is right after you water it. What matters the most is how fast the soil dries out. Its okay to be damp right after watering. If you use a water probe, wait until its just below 50% (debatable for all the experts out there, and I'm no expert) before watering. You should have to wait no longer than a week for your soil to need another thorough watering (in my opinion).

I have no guesses as to what the tiny white bugs in your soil are but I googled springtail and the pictures that came up are simply horrifying. Good luck!


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Thank you so much for responding Marme! I'm still waiting for the soil to dry out some more. I haven't watered the tree since it first came. I've been using a pencil to test the moisture in the soil and the top is finally drying out but still moist underneath.

I've been trying to gather stuff for the gritty mix instead of 511 after doing some more research and I'm just waiting for everything else to be delivered so that I can start sifting through my materials :)

I contacted lemoncitrustree.com about the bugs and they are sending another tree because they think it might be fungus gnats. I still think it's springtails because there aren't any bugs flying around the tree. Either way, they are not a big deal and they're not going to kill the tree and now I'm going to have 2 meyer lemon trees. I hope this all works out!


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In my experience, fungus gnats seem to really like soil with more peat or compost, so the gritty mix will probably help take care of that problem. I've also not seen spring tails in grittier soil either. Never saw either in a proper cactus mix. So changing them over can only be good.

Very cool customer service there, to send a replacement right out like that, nice!


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RE: New lemon tree. Should I be worried about leaves and bugs?

OOo, fungus gnats I have experience with. You would definitely be able to see them. You may not be able to take a good picture but you should be able to see. They look like fruit flies but don't respond to the vinegar and soap mixture. What I do for fungus gnats is to repot and wash the entire plant in a soapy mixture (get rid of the eggs) OR during the winter, I let the soil dry out almost completely, until the plant almost wilts. The fungus gnats can't survive or procreate in such dryness. The only downside is if the plant gets so weak and it gets so dry, then you have to worry about spider mites. :/ for us citrus people, it will always be a constant battle. :)


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