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wire trellis

iliketogolf
11 years ago

Hi,

I'm in the midst of building a trellis along a garage wall. It's 20 feet long, 7 feet high. I've got posts in the ground and need to wire it. First, would horizonal wiring only (no vertical) be OK?. Second, if horizontal only, how far of spacing would you recommmend? Third, What type of wiring is best, i.e., what is the best way to construct the wiring and what type of wire?

thanks in advance!

Comments (16)

  • bob414
    11 years ago

    I don't know that I can help with this but I'll try. I've never used a trellis with horizontal wiring only but see no reason why it wouldn't work. I like a 6 in. grid on mine so I would space the wires 6 inches apart if I were doing it that way. You want the wire to be sturdy enough to survive the vines being pulled off. I use a lot of rebar panels for trellis. It rusts but that doesn't bother me. I know it would some people. If you could find something like these cattle panels at a reasonable price they would be ideal. The ones on that page are only 16 ft. long but I know that some makers make them longer.

  • iliketogolf
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Thanks for your response. I really like the look of the trellis in the link below (lots of pics...sorry. It's about 80% down the page with the title 'Wire Trellis with Pink Jasmine Vine'

    I have four posts and would like to wire it like the one on the link. Don't know if I need a vertical wire though. And if so, how to attach it without pulling on the top and bottom wires. Any tips would be welcome!

    Here is a link that might be useful: trellis

  • buyorsell888
    11 years ago

    I would use cattle panels myself.

    I would think that you'd need the vertical wires.

    I have a wooden arbor that has horizontal only "bars" on it and they do not climb it well at all.

    They shimmy right up wire though.

  • greenhavenrdgarden
    11 years ago

    Use key hole screws evenly spaced about every 6 inches up each side of the posts and then run the wire through them horizontally. You should be able to screw them in by hand easily. The plants will wrap around this just fine. As long as the posts are secured firmly in the ground it will be sturdy. Besides, wire is so cheap you could always restring it each spring when its time to rip down type 3 clems if you need to. There is no need to run string vertically bc there will be plenty of wire for the plants to cling to. I like the support in the link. I think I might try this myself. Thanks for sharing!!

  • NHBabs z4b-5a NH
    11 years ago

    It looks to me like they used turnbuckles in the photo in the link which would make it easier to make the tension even. It also looks like the wires are spaced at 4" rather than 6", though I don't know that the closer spacing would be needed for a clematis.

  • iliketogolf
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    What guage of wire would you recommend? My posts in the ground are not going anywhere so I'd like my wiring to be permanent as well.

  • NHBabs z4b-5a NH
    11 years ago

    I know that the gauge wire in concrete reinforcing mesh works well, but you'd have to do some research to find out what that is since I don't know. I have also used light weight cable that had previously been used in a garage door to spiral up a homemade obelisk, but that is a bit of overkill. ;>) You do want to use wire that is galvanized (less expensive and more common) or copper if it is going to last a long time.

  • bob414
    11 years ago

    Probably 7 or 8. It's about 1/8 in. Your choice, but I would look into the stock panels first.

  • rj56
    11 years ago

    I like the idea of the livestock panel used as a trellis. What is used as support for the panel? I notice there are Tposts, or can re-bar be used? I'm a female and need something easy that I can install myself.

  • NHBabs z4b-5a NH
    11 years ago

    I don't use livestock panel, but have used panels used for concrete reinforcement. I have used a wood frame on some, but many of my clematis supports are held up by rebar. I prefer that to t-posts because it is narrower and I find the clunkiness of t-posts unattractive.

    My most frequent type of clematis support is an obelisk made of rebar or slightly narrower steel rod, cut to length with a hack saw and then attached together at the top with concrete tie wire or a hose clamp or a zip tie. I usually spiral a wire up the structure so that there is something extra for the clematis to cling to.

  • rj56
    11 years ago

    nhbabs, do you have any photos of your obelisk contraption? I've seen obelisks but the ones I've seen aren't very tall.

  • NHBabs z4b-5a NH
    11 years ago

    Jilljohn, I do, but right now I am out of town without my regular computer where my photos are stored. It may be a couple of weeks before I can get them up. Mine are about 6-8', but I could make them taller as the steel I mostly use comes in 20' lengths which I cut in half and then shove a foot or two into the ground.

  • NHBabs z4b-5a NH
    11 years ago

    Jilljohn -Here's the photo of a couple of my homemade obelisks:
    {{gwi:586071}}From June 5, 2012

    Definitely rustic, but as you can see the barn behind doesn't yet have final siding on it, so it's appropriate to this old farm.

  • rj56
    11 years ago

    nhbabs,
    Impressive! You're obviously talented with metal. Thanks for posting. I'm a visual person. Is the plant planted inside the obelisk or at the outside edge?

  • pmillard1
    6 years ago

    Inspirational!