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Propagation of an unwanted species: Clematis akoensis

Posted by mark4321 10a CA Sunset 16/17 (My Page) on
Wed, May 7, 14 at 23:20

I only grow one Clematis. As an exchange for a defective Chilean Bellflower (Lapageria) lacking the normal coloration (all white), I was sent a couple rooted cuttings of Clematis akoensis.

Clematis akoensis is presumably undesirable because of its bicolored flowers, which are scented unlike most modern hybrids. See link at bottom for a photo I found online (not mine). Presumably because of its appearance, the flower has not been grown outside of its native Taiwan until very recently. It is a tropical species, tolerating little or no frost. So perhaps its lack of appeal is understandable.

A search of the Clematis forum, and Gardenweb as a whole for Clematis akoensis yields no results, indicating how unpopular this species is.

However, I think it's important that we all propagate some pure species (of whatever plants), not just manmade hybrids. So I decided to start some cuttings of Clematis akoensis, pictured below. All are single node, soft cuttings. I dipped the tips in Rootone (0.1% IBA) and am incubating them in moist perlite, under lights, indoors (roughly 70 F).

Perhaps some will object to the propagation of such a species that is clearly defective compared to many hybrids. I'll check the cuttings weekly for two months, and report back. If anyone can guess how many of the four cuttings successfully root (ties broken by a guess as to timing of rooting) I can send one of the rooted cuttings for postage. The recipient can then dispose of it or otherwise deal with it as they deem appropriate.

The 4 cuttings:

Here is a link that might be useful: The flowers of this species (not mine)


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RE: Propagation of an unwanted species: Clematis akoensis

  • Posted by mark4321 10a CA Sunset 16/17 (My Page) on
    Wed, May 7, 14 at 23:27

Here's a photo of the leaves, which instead of being solid green, have white speckles on them. In the background is another species, a Passionflower, Passiflora loefgrenii, which also is bicolored.


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What's not to like! I hope your cuttings root.


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I agree. Oftentimes the species is more lovely than the hybrids. Plus, there is a lot of genetic material that should be grown on. I think the flowers are gorgeous!

Linda


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RE: Propagation of an unwanted species: Clematis akoensis

"unwanted" and "undesireable" seem to me rather unfair descriptive tems based on just a search of gardenweb. Rare I would agree with, but it is an endangered species in its native Taiwan, so its rarity is not unexpected. Also, its need for either a greenhouse or a warm climate also adds to its rarity, but neither of those make it undesireable. It is a lovely plant, and its blue stamens make it that much more attractive rather than less IMO.

If you look at forums where clematis collectors and breeders post, you will find it is discussed. GW attracts gardeners, many of whom are just beginning and so rare plants will be less likely to be discussed. I will see if Garden Web allows me to add a link to a different forum (though if you want to see the photo you have to join.)

Here is a link that might be useful: Garden Buddies Clematis akoensis


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  • Posted by mark4321 10a CA Sunset 16/17 (My Page) on
    Thu, May 8, 14 at 16:12

I was joking at times, and I thought I was being obvious. Sorry if this created any confusion.

I assume some people did figure out that I was not serious in all of my comments. Clematis akoensis is obviously a stunning species. That should have been the first clue. The suggestion that someone could receive a rooted cutting, only to "dispose of it", was also not subtle. The offer of one of one of the cuttings is of course for real.

I have found the plant easy to grow so far in my climate, even over the winter. It was cool but frost free, with most winter temperatures around 60/40 F. While C. akoensis is from the tropics, Southern Taiwan does cool down considerably in winter. The fact that it is from a region with hot, humid summers, yet continues to grow over a Northern California winter, suggests that it might be possible outside in (nearly?) frost-free climates in both California and Florida.

The plant is surprisingly easy to propagate, which is why I'm attempting such minimal cuttings.

I find this strange, but I'm told that the all white form is considered more "desirable".


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I thought your title referred to you not wanting to propagate it, but somehow had to. However, if it refers to other people not wanting to propagate it, I would ignore that totally. If you want to , go ahead!

As for the lack of information, it may relate more to not having that as a common clematis. You mentioned that it is native or mostly available in Taiwan, so I would even imagine that is a condition right there. It's just not a common or readily available variety here to be talked about. Or like the case with some of my hobbies and interests, there is plenty of discussion about it in Chinese or in Asian circles, but not in English.


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  • Posted by mark4321 10a CA Sunset 16/17 (My Page) on
    Thu, May 8, 14 at 19:05

The "unwanted" in the title of the post is there to make it ridiculous and ironic. The plant is of great interest to those familiar with it, including top nurseries and botanical gardens. If people are unaware, all it takes is a photo.

If I had enough material, I'd start a lot more cuttings. I would like to see it bloom before distributing it too much. Appparently it blooms reasonably small, so that will hopefully happen early next year.

I thought I read once that Taiwan actively kept it from leaving the country. The idea being that it was a national treasure that only belonged there. I may be misremembering this; perhaps it was merely due to laws protecting an endangered plant. My impression, though, is that there has been considerable interest in C. akoensis outside of Taiwan for a while. It was simply not available.


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Thanks for the input, Mark. This is a lovely Clematis species. While browsing for more info, ran across the common name and got a chuckle...it's rather musical. :-)

"ping dong tie xian lian"


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RE: Propagation of an unwanted species: Clematis akoensis

Mark,

I have come across this post looking for tropical Clematis. Other than SAC, the only other I found is Clematis smilacifolia / Tropical clematis listed that can grow in South Florida. So if you know a source for this, I am very interested. I do note that you got this as rooted cutting.

Thank you.

Here is a link that might be useful: Clematis smilacifolia


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BTW, i think all 4 will take!!


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  • Posted by NVL4 none (My Page) on
    Thu, Jul 10, 14 at 15:03

I will play. 3 will take.


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RE: Propagation of an unwanted species: Clematis akoensis

Why not play? I'll go for two to take.


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I'm going to say that one will take, because the rest of the numbers are taken. It is a LOVELY plant, and the flowers are just WOW! Is it fragrant?


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