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companions for asparagus

penny_md6
22 years ago

In the spring I'm planting a large bed of asparagus. I'd like to plant an annual...or perennial, with the asparagus. I thought maybe baby's breath but I'm afraid it will reseed and become a weed. Has anyone found a pleasing, non-intrusive companion for asparagus?

Opinions welcome.

Comments (70)

  • eden
    19 years ago

    Userse--just to let you know how I was successful planting asparagus-many people here cannot get it to grow. The direction say to plant in a "deep trough". We did the first time and everyone of them rotted-we have clay soil-so it was like putting them in a clay trough-no drainage.
    The next year, we took the same "trough and put lots of rich soil and composted manure on top and made a mound about two feet above ground level. The asparagus loved it-and we have had it for about five years now. We have "no" problems except with beetles-but the crop is great. You might want to try this method. Our patch is about 8' X 3' and we get all of the aspargus we can eat and put up some ea. year.

  • wademorris
    19 years ago

    Eden, How many crowns did you plant and what configuration. Also I was hoping for more mulch suggestions.

    Anyone?

  • SaBro
    19 years ago

    Not to beat this subject to death but I am new here and wanted to put in my 2 cents worth. I have an asparagus bed that is close to twenty years old and going strong. One of the best things I have done so far is use Preen & Green. After hoeing the bed early in the spring to get any weeds out, I followed package directions and I have a clean bed and outstanding asparagus this year. Great stuff!

  • baldi
    19 years ago

    Could somebody please tell me what aspargus looks like when it just starts coming up? This is the first year that I have planted it.

  • aka_peggy
    19 years ago

    Hi Baldi,

    It looks like asparagus:-) Sorry, I'm not being wise but the gus spears emerge 1st and the ferns soon follow. It's kinda strange looking really with nothing but the spears poking out.

    Year 3: planted yellow cosmos in my gus patch this spring and it looked great. They must be planted before the gus ferns out tho or it'll shade the cosmos.

    I started putting shredded leaves on my bed in the fall and spring and I've had no weed problems. I love using leaves on my beds because they look so good and they're *free*.

    Peggy, formerly penny_md6

  • paulns
    19 years ago

    This thread has been going a long time, I like the updates on people's asparagus beds. I've grown early greens - lettuce, arugula - with success between the rows. Anise hyssop has been self-seeding in the patch, not too aggressively - that's nice and very attractive to bees. Cosmos sounds good too. We mulch with seaweed but that's scarce this year so may try leaves.

    With all due respect - please don't try growing comfrey anywhere in the garden, especially not in the asparagus patch. Maybe it dies back in very hot climates. Here in zone 5-6 it is a brute that spreads and is virtually impossible to eradicate.

  • aka_peggy
    19 years ago

    Hi Paul,

    I read up on the comfrey some time back and decided against that long ago.

    I just mulched my gus bed with shredded leaves as I do every fall. With the exception of a little clover, I virtually have no weeds in the bed. The leaves are excellent for smothering weeds while adding organic matter to the soil.

    This thread has been around for awhile hasn't it?

  • fairy_toadmother
    19 years ago

    it's back!!! it's alive!!!!!

    since everyone has had years of experience by now, could someone please advise me on some ideas- are they good, bad, not so good but might work, etc...

    here goes. i don't not like asparagus. hey, don't shoot me, that leaves more for the rest of the world. while i am at it, anyone have ideas on how to get the smell off my hands after picking. i wash my hands three times and i still smell of asp juice! sorry, again i don't find tht too pleasant. i would like to grow asp for dh, much easier than foraging the countryside, so here goes (again):
    #1.5 i do not have the room for asp patch, nor do i want to devote any spot to asp. can i interplant it into my flower garden? will it take over during the reseed time? the garden is clay in almost full sun that also receives reflected heat from the house. i have always liked the idea of interplanting flowers and veggies.
    #2. if it doesn't work there, how about on the southside of a privacy fence? however, it is very dry right next to the fence.
    #3. is asp toxic to grazing cats or dogs? i am especially concerned bc the neighbor on the other side of the fence has a dog. i would hate for it to come up on their side and be blamed for making their dog sick (i would also feel i deserved the blame)
    #4. if it spreads more than i like, how can i control it? there is only one person in the house to eat it, so we only need a few.
    #5. i hear not to eat the tiny skinny spears, to let them go to seed. are these the males or the females?

    thanks!

  • tootswisc
    19 years ago

    I moved into a house with a large asparagus bed that was full of weeds. My neighbors really love us for giving away the extras. This year I had lot's of cardboard from some furniture that I bought so I put that down between the rows. I will have a bed that is under control some year...I will I will I will!

  • nature_farmer
    18 years ago

    I heard salt will keep weeds out of your asparagus patch,anyone ever try it.It's not supposed to hurt the asparagus.I have clay soil and I planted 50 plants only about 15 made it,i might have planted it to deep.I need more; can I sow asparagus seeds in the bed.Or do I have to grow them then move them to the patch?Thanks,Jody

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    Lavoie Boho
    18 years ago

    I have planted Nasturtium seeds in my new Asp. bed just for something to look at. It's in clay soil amended with leaf compost and not planted as deep as I would have in my former sandy Boston soil. I'm glad someone brought up the topic of planting in clay. Robin in NC

  • KGates
    18 years ago

    Just found this old thread and wanted to respond to something someone said way back.

    For me, it was a BAD IDEA to plant hollyhocks anywhere near my asparagus, because the hollyhocks developed rust and then it spread to the asparagus. Ouch! Can't solarize that soil now!

    This is just my first year with the Jersey King hybrids, and hoping they'll be OK if I just keep on dousing them with the neem.

  • MarciL
    18 years ago

    Anyone out there have a problem with gus spreading into flower beds. My gus bed has moved itself a good 4 feet from where it started. Is there any way to transplant back into the area it started from? And also would like advise of pruning the ferns when they become over 5 feet tall.

  • cinnamonk
    18 years ago

    Hi - someone mentioned adding salt to asparagus beds. I have read that elsewhere as a block to fusarium wilt (I had tomatoes in my asparagus bed that got wilt and I'm afraid it might be in the dirt). But I imagine salt would be unhealthy for the companion plants? Anybody have experience with this?
    Thanks!

  • termite210
    18 years ago

    My permaculture landscaper said they learned that asparagus and grapes grow well together. So I am going to plant some asparagus with two grape plants next year. Will See how they do.

  • pickapeppa_comcast_net
    15 years ago

    Guess I'm a little late to this party. I'm wondering if anyone had luck with their companion plantings, besides the hollyhocks and tomato problems.

    My asparagus bed is looking a little lonely, and I tucked some garlic in there early this spring before it popped up. So far, they're all doing good. After reading here, I'm thinking of yanking out the garlic.

    Has anyone tried growing strawberries in their asparagus beds? I have some left over and need a place to plant them. I was thinking asparagus and strawberries might make nice companions.

  • tasymo
    15 years ago

    Hmmmm, I like the sound of strawberries with asparagus... I just put a raised bed of 'Gus this Spring. I put carrots and radishes between the rows. My son was asking for a strawberry patch... Maybe I'll get a few plants and see what happens!

  • highdesertrose
    15 years ago

    Hi: We just had about 8" of snow over the last week that has melted off in the last 24-36 hours--warmed up and windy!! So, I'm thinking about gardening. I'm going to try the salt this spring because our crop was skimpy last year. Could be from the rot? Was thinking about trying a few bush bean plants (covered with bird netting to keep out the deer). We have quite a problem with "wire grass" taking over if we are not diligent with weeding. From the comments from people having asparagus around for years, decreasing production must be an issue with environment rather than age. Any other suggestions appreciated. Love this site and all the others that have helped with questions I've have in the past. Thanks--Lynn

  • patrickvh
    15 years ago

    Hey There. Great conversation. Tons of info. Thanks.

    Sunday, I staked out my first asparagus bed, ten feet wide and eighty-three feet long. Wierd in zone five, mid-Febuary (was actually turning soil in main garden next day). I only plan twenty-eight asparagus plants, to make room for companions. Tomatos, peas, basil, parsley, oragano, greens and nastirtiums should be mutally benifical to each other and the asparagus.

    In clay soil, I will dig three foot diameter circles one foot deep, in three rows, spaced two and a half feet apart with each hole staggered in relation adjacent row. Each plant, in common rows, will end up being eight feet eight inches apart. Compost, soil and manure will be added to each hole until mounded into a hill on which an asparagus crown will be planted. The hill will then be mulched.

    The herbs will be planted around the asparagus hills to form a circle with diameter five feet. The voids left by the circles in the over all bed will be planted with sixteen tomato-pea pairs, and randomly filled out with nastirtiums. Greens and herbs seeded around parimeter will help keep weeds out.

    Any advice on this plan would be greatly appreciated.

    Peace, Pat

  • lady_nikki
    15 years ago

    Hi, all -
    thanks for an interesting and informative discussion! I was thinking about putting clover in my asp bed. Maybe will try nasturtiums and basil.
    thanks again
    Nik

  • listenstohorses
    15 years ago

    This is a great long running thread. I have recntly planted some gus seed and at my old farm had an old bed. Oh the weeds and what we tryed with it!!

    I am planning for my next farm with the seed. I plan to grow it in pots. I have found that terra cotta pots buried 3/4 of the way in the ground (sand here) makes for a lot less needey plant that a normal potted plant, which I usually let not do so good.

    How large of a pot will the plants need as they grow?
    Thank you

  • joanofarc
    14 years ago

    Re: Pat 'patrickvh'

    I'd really like to see a picture of this!!!

    To All:

    When is the best time of year to plant asparagus?
    I moved to Central WA after living in Western WA and feel like I need to learn how to garden all over again.
    Last year I planted herbs in containers and they all died from lack of water, I just couldn't keep them irrigated enough!

    This year I plan to put in drip and mini sprinklers to mist when needed on timers!

    Live Light!

  • terry_upstate_ny
    13 years ago

    We transplanted some older 'gus' roots recently, they were doing poorly where they were before, the oregano (not sure what herb it was) had been groing wild over it and we hardly got any spears. I was really suprised when we dug up the roots, they were large and healthy.
    I think by moving them now they will grow better in the spring.

  • iammarcus
    13 years ago

    terry
    I will be interested in how well your 'gus' handles the move. I just tried dividing some of my roots to see if I could propagate them.
    Dan

  • atoz4933
    13 years ago

    When I was a tiny kid, I'd sneak next door and eat raspberries that grew in an asparagus bed. So when we moved to a home with an established bed, just for nostalgia's sake I planted a few raspberry plants. WOW did I ever get a bumper crop of both! Old Julie must have known a thing or two about companion planting back then.

  • jolj
    13 years ago

    I have 20,000 lbs of coffee waste, that I am going to put red worms in. Then put the casting/compost in 36" deep bed that will be 52'long X 7' wide. The crowns will be 12" apart,16" between rows, yes they will make that close, but no other plant can be put in the bed. I was told that Sodium Chloride Rock (NaCI) or pickling salt should be applied at 2.5 lbs per hundred feet row. Not table salt or any other salt.
    I will put Coir down & mulch with shredded leaves.
    I will have 200 crowns per bed & 3 beds. The crowns are dirt cheat(no pun) if you buy 500 or more.
    If you check this link, you can learn more about the asparagus, yes they sale the crowns, but they give free lessons too.

    Here is a link that might be useful: asparagus gardener

  • jolj
    13 years ago

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K0fQJAoq3E
    Raised beds for gus.

    Here is a link that might be useful: jon beds

  • alinaw_yahoo_com
    13 years ago

    Wow this thread has been going for 9+ years now...neat.
    Anyway was wondering if the person "pickahotpeppa" had any luck with the asparagus and strawberries in the same bed? Anybody else try this combo? Getting ready to plant both and was hoping they could share a bed...

  • bulletz64
    12 years ago

    i just saw these postings (wow! 9 years and counting!!!) as i was looking for a companion plant for my asparagus. i've planted eggplants and bell peppers on the same plot, it did bear some but i think the tomato patch right next to the gus patch has somewhat shaded it so the peppers and eggplant didn't grow that high. the suggestions of cosmos, nasturtiums and strawberries are interesting. does anyone have any pictures of their gus patch with their companions?

  • pickahotpeppa
    12 years ago

    Here I am. What a blast from the past. Too funny this thread caught my eye again while looking for an oregano companion!

    I did not plant the strawberries with the asparagus. As a matter of fact, I've lost one asparagus bed to root rot, and the other I'm waiting to see if it comes up this year. The garlic is still in there. I can't believe it's been three years already!

    The strawberries have outgrown their bed and are popping up along every crack and crevice around the garden beds. I was thinking of moving them, saw the post about the asparagus, thought that was a neat idea, then saw my name mentioned later down the page referencing strawberries in asparagus.

    LOL

    I think it's time to move that garlic now . . . and maybe sock some strawberries in its place.

  • willowmom2000_yahoo_com
    12 years ago

    My asparagus (grave shaped with the gus around the perimeter) is near the neighbor's walnut tree. So tomatoes did not work. I planted large hyacinth in the center and had beautiful blooms. The strawberries sound good, but will that walnut tree cause problems? What veggies will be happy in that environment?

  • wildrosesocal
    12 years ago

    My 'gus patch has been in about 4 years, I started with about 15 crowns. I'm having decent spears and plenty of ferns.
    I directly compost in my 3 beds, rotating to a new one each year. Last fall it was time to compost in the 'gus patch, and I was concerned about digging into the crowns, causing damage. I layered grass clippings and leaves nearly 2feet deep and buried the compostables at the soil level. This spring I had the best 'gus ever. I raked out some of the finished compost for spring planting in the other beds.

    All that mulch was down to the soil level again, so I dumped thick grass clippings on it again. Watered that down, and WOW, more 'gus popped up! This is my new system for fertilizing the asparagus patch. Next fall I'm going to plant more crowns to fill in better.

    I have noticed it 'crawling'. I'm watching its growth habit. It doesn't seem to come up in exactly the same spot, leaving an empty place from last year.

    I also like some of the flower companion ideas to complement the summer ferns. Thanks for all your ideas.

  • Treehorn
    12 years ago

    Has anyone tried dutch white clover as a cover crop? We have a bed that is hard to maintain as far as weeds go, and we keep bees.

  • heliprincess
    11 years ago

    I was thinking of planting Sweet Peas along the wall of my house behind my asparagus. Does anyone know of a reason that this would be a bad idea? I am also curious about how strawberries would work with asparagus as mentioned earlier by someone.

  • qbush
    11 years ago

    WildRose: When do you pile leaves and grass? My patch is new this year, and the ferns are fairly small yet. should I wait till they die down, or just pile around them? Here in MA we have lots of leaves, and DH will love me for making leaf season easier AND feeding His favorite veggie. I usually put horse manure in compost, but I think coffee grounds sound better for asparagus. I will have to wait for the baby beets I snuck in to cover soil at front of bed come out... (pickled beets for leaf totting DH)

    Thanks!!

  • ImustBcrazy2growhere
    11 years ago

    Great thread. FYI, where I live in Colorado, asparagus grows wild along the irrigation ditches. Over the years, I noticed that when farmers burn the ditches in the spring, the asparagus is better than in years they don't. The main competition are grasses and fescues of various types. Interestingly, in the fall, I don't see any difference in the amount of the grass or the size of asparagus plants in the fall in burned and non-burned years.

  • CateK
    11 years ago

    I have a 2-yr-old asparagus bed that I have interplanted with rhubarb. I figured they both need lots of nutrients and lots of water, and the rhubarb leaves would help shade out the weeds, without shading the asparagus.

    Of course last year was a drought year, so they've both been unhappy :-( I'll be topdressing with compost this spring, and we'll see how they do this year.

  • Goat_Girl1
    10 years ago

    Hi Everyone!

    I'm new to this website, but it sure is cool to see a thread that has been going for 13 years!

    I have an existing asparagus bed (in the ground) that is next to the perimeter of the garden... about 24" from the fence. It is about 5 years old, and doing great. For lack of space (we have many critters- deer, rabbits, ground squirrel...) the garden is built like a fortress, and works well. I have interplanted the 2' between the asparagus and the wire fence with all sorts of things: Purple Orach looked really pretty with the ferns in summer, some cucumbers trained p the fence, I have had cilantro and dill there (this didn't seem like a fantastic combo, but maybe I didn't fertilize enough that time), and this winter there are a few broccoli, calendula in the fence, dino kale, and onion set. The Kale is medium size, and probably will have to be pulled before the asparagus needs to fern (But maybe not, it could be structural!).

    My question: have many of you started asparagus from seed? I decided to, because the crowns are expensive, and I had never heard of crowns sold of this seed: "Precocce d' Argenteuil". I now have the cutest baby ferns- about 8 weeks old, and am making a raised bed for them. I am planning to cull the females when they seed, but because of the limited space, was thinking of planting them at about 6" intervals for this nursery year, then re-arranging the spacing after culling. I've been trying to find information on the internet about how the nurseries grow out the first year, but haven't found anything helpful.

    Anyway, I'll at least try to remember to get back to this thread in a few years to let you all know how my experiment work out. Oh, and I am planning on planting the edge of the bed with freesia, because I have a bunch of bulbs!

  • canyongypsy
    9 years ago

    I live in Colorado in a canyon 7200' zone 4a. I am wanting to plant Asparagus along a creek bank. My husband thinks this is unwise because is would not be a native plant and could spread. Can someone offer me advice? I have never planted Asparagus before.

  • ImustBcrazy2growhere
    9 years ago

    Hello canyon gypsy! Not sure if you will get enough sunlight in a canyon at 7200 feet to grow asparagus. I would not worry about the seed spreading. In eastern Colorado, asparagus has spread all along the irrigation ditch banks. Savvy harvesters go out and collect it during the spring time. No farmer ever objected to it and it doesn't take over a field the way other weeds do. Hope this helps and I wish you luck in growing it!

  • lovestogarden
    9 years ago

    This is an amazingly long-lived thread! Two years ago I transplanted new asparagus plants into a new raspberry bed, and so far, they are surviving. I've only harvested a couple of shoots (such restraint!), and by the time they are going to fern, the raspberry canes are leafing out. In the meantime, plan to start Jersey Knight seeds this year to plant into another new raspberry (raised) bed. Thanks to previous posters for warning me off the Mary Washington seeds.

  • lovestogarden
    9 years ago

    This is an amazingly long-lived thread! Two years ago I transplanted new asparagus plants into a new raspberry bed, and so far, they are surviving. I've only harvested a couple of shoots (such restraint!), and by the time they are going to fern, the raspberry canes are leafing out. In the meantime, plan to start Jersey Knight seeds this year to plant into another new raspberry (raised) bed. Thanks to previous posters for warning me off the Mary Washington seeds.

  • lavendermocha
    8 years ago

    I was thinking of planting sweet woodruff with my newly planted asparagus patch. Has anyone ever down that?

  • M Lenore Tomlinson
    8 years ago

    People have been suggesting comfrey and I just have to comment. I planted it about forty years ago...brought one little plant from fifty miles away. It's a useful herb. That wretched stuff spread everywhere!!!! Even invaded a nearby green space. Your neighbours might not thank you.

  • Hannah Cbus (5b/6a)
    6 years ago

    I read this thread a few years ago when I was trying to figure out if it would work with asparagus and strawberries. Since there wasn't an answer, I went ahead and did it. My asparagus bed is on year 2 and thus far I haven't had any problems. I was a little worried that the leaves of the super- healthy strawberries would inhibit the spears in the second season but they've broken through just fine. Now if I could ward off the asparagus beetles... There has been a lot of squishing lately.


    Just wanted to give an update in case anyone else is considering this. I realize it is only year 2 but most of my concerns have not been realized.

  • jolj
    6 years ago

    I only put More asparagus in my asparagus bed, I plant them as close as 12 inches.

    No room for any thing but mulch.

    But if you must:results (0.72 seconds)

    Search Results

    ASPARAGUS- Companions: Basil, parsley, tomato. Ally: Pot marigold deters beetles.

  • Hannah Cbus (5b/6a)
    6 years ago

    For me, it wasn't so much I was thinking they'd help each other so much as would they coexist so I could have both in my smallish garden space. I do appreciate you taking the time to do a google search though. I've done that same search many times. That's how I found this thread in fact. I was looking specifically for strawberries and asparagus though.


    I have a little room left so I'm going to hunt down a shorter tomato to help with the beetles. Unfortunately, it is on the south side where something dug up what I'd planted. Now to google short tomatoes...

  • Hannah Cbus (5b/6a)
    6 years ago

    Jolj, now I'm curious- when you are planting More asparagus into your bed, do you keep it the same kind or do you mix?

  • jolj
    6 years ago

    I keep each kind in one space, but I do that to harvest each kind at one time.

    I have more MARY WASHINGTON then the other kind I grow.

    As for growing in small spaces you should be able to mix them you.

  • lovestogarden
    6 years ago

    My asparagus is mostly dead, both the seeded and the roots. I suspect there was too much competition from the raspberries, but I have no explanation for the seeded plants since there wasn't anything nearby. I've been fortunate to be able to grow almost anything in our soil, but have never been able to keep asparagus roots alive in my 25 years working in this garden. When I first tried about 20 years ago, I dug up the mostly dead roots and did find that a number of worms were eating on them. So back then, before I switched to organic gardening, I used Seven, and that seemed to give them another year or two, but they eventually succumbed. Does anyone have any ideas?

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