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Abies lasiocarpa & magnifica photo gallery 2012

monkeytreeboy15
11 years ago

one at a time... nice and easy

'Alpine Beauty'

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-Sam

Comments (45)

  • firefightergardener
    11 years ago

    One at a time? Okay dokay Sam.

    One of each!

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Stanley K'
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    Closeup.
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    Abies magnifica 'Mt. Si'
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    -Will

  • monkeytreeboy15
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Awesome, Will. Welcome to the party.
    I like that high-grafted 'Stanley K.'

    My 'Mt. Si' is yet small. Here's a photo or two:

    Abies magnifica 'Mt. Si'
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    -Sam

  • firefightergardener
    11 years ago

    Does this count as one of a time, Sam? :)

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Siskyou'.- About 6-8 years old, showing it's first sign of a little sunburn(top right part). I pinched a few dying needles, fingers crossed.
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    Abies magnifica 'Nana'
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    -Will

  • monkeytreeboy15
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    You don't have to do one at a time, Will. I only meant that I was starting it with only one of the plants I have to show!

    Now before Edwin has a chance to tell you, the proper name is Abies lasiocarpa 'Siskiyou'. ;-)

    Do you plan to stake that magnifica?

    -Sam

  • firefightergardener
    11 years ago

    Damn, thanks Sam. I've replaced the tag, as it causes me to make these repeated errors. I hope Edwin's wrath is minimal!

    I had not - yet - Sam. If it doesn't form it's own leader I probably will in 2-3 years - I plan on keeping it in the pot for 4-5 years or more.

    A few to make up for my error!

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Stevens Blue'
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    Abies lasiocarpa 'Utah' - unusual.
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    -Will

  • gardener365
    11 years ago

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Kenwith Blue'
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    Abies lasiocarpa 'Kenwith Blue'
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    Dax

  • sluice
    11 years ago

    Nice !

    Abies lasiocarpa, J. Morris selection
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  • firefightergardener
    11 years ago

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Prickly Pete' - Was more green last year but it has nicer blue(correct?) tones this year with more sunshine. Last year(and the year before), we had abysmmally cloud-drenched Spring/Summers.
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    Abies lasiocarpa 'Hoyt WB' - Often mislabeled as Abies amabilis.
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    Abies lasiocarpa 'Glacier' - Exceptionally blue.
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    Closeup.
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    -Will

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Will, Sam is right, it's Abies lasiocarpa 'Siskiyou'

    Another change you've to make is 'Steven's Blue' into 'Steven Blue'.

    'Steven Blue' and 'Stanley K.' are both named after the sons of Joerg Kohout from Germany.

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Hoyt W.B.' is right when it comes to it's species name, but IMO it's not a witches' broom because it's grows way to fast.

    The 'Glacier' aka 'Glacier Blue' does have a very nice blue colour.
    It was found by Dick Bush.

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Mulligan's Dwarf'(l), Abies x lasiokor 'Inga'(r)
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  • whaas_5a
    11 years ago

    I thought 'Glacier' and 'Glacier Blue' are two distict cultivars.

    'Glacier' being a very slow growing mounding form and 'Glacier Blue' being slightly faster growing and a more upright conical form.

    I think Clement had shown us a 'Glacier' here.

    http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/conif/gal061535574500.html

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Will you could be right, my surch on the web showed me 'Glacier' and 'Glacier Blue' as the same plant with the same upright conical habbit.

    The 'Glacier' which Clement was showing does have a completely differend habbit and is for me very interesting to put some time in for an investigation.

    There's no other info to find about specimens with the same habit as Clement's...

    But...maybe Clement can help us out with his info in which I'm very curious :0)

  • clement_2006
    11 years ago

    Many broom found by Horstmann father are named "Hexenbezen" in a first time. In 86/87 catalogue :
    Abies lasiocarpa "Hexenbezen" are proposed, but after some year renamed "Logan Pass"
    Logan Pass are situated in Glacier National Park, noted in the catalogue,by this way it's somtetime named "Glacier"
    Clement

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Clement, many thanks for your helping answer!

    This is his specimen with the age of about 25 years old.
    Abies lasiocarpa 'Logan Pass' aka 'Lopalpun'
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    In the 'Logan Pass' case we must forget about 'Glacier' because this cultivar name is given now to another cultivar of the same species.

    Clement do you agree that the 'Logan Pass' is very tight at first and later on will "loosen up" in it's growing habit?

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Logan Pass' at a younger age
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  • maple_grove_gw
    11 years ago

    " Abies lasiocarpa 'Logan Pass' aka 'Lopalpun' "

    Edwin, does this mean that 'Logan Pass' and 'Lopalpun' are the same clone? If I understand correctly, this would be the same plant that Clement states was referred to in the past as 'Glacier'? But different from the 'Glacier' that Will shows us? This becomes somewhat confusing...

    Thanks for the fantastic pictures by the way.

    Alex

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Alex, yep, that's how the situation is.
    I know it's confusing, but the reason for this is that some people don't invest some time in research before they give a name to a plant...

    'Logan Pass' and 'Lopalpun':
    With a bit fantasy it's clear that the last name derived from a badly written tag...

  • firefightergardener
    11 years ago

    Thank you Edwin/Clement/everyone who helped sort all of this out.

    I now label my plants as

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Lopalpun' aka 'Logan Pass', the small broom above as Clement shows us and I will keep my specimen from Dick Bush named properly as

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Glacier'. Is 'Glacier Blue' then incorrect as well? Thank you!

    A few more today.

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Lopalpun' - MODERATE shade, doing just fine - so far. I have another specimen I can show in 'full sun' and it will be curious to watch them both over the years.
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    Abies lasiocarpa var. Arizonica 'Glauca Compacta' - Common but beautiful and gardenworthy whereever it can be grown.
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    -Will

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Will, it's the opposide, you've to name your specimen as 'Logan Pass' aka 'Lopalpun'.
    'Lopalpun' arose as a miswriting and started to live it's own life.
    IMO I wrote this very clear 4 messago ago...

    Dick Bush named his find 'Glacier'.
    It's the Buchholz Nursery who named it into 'Glacier Blue'.

  • clement_2006
    11 years ago

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    Abies lasiocarpa"Logan Pass"
    My plant today,planted in shade and destroyed by snow 2 years ago, not very nice !
    Clement

  • whaas_5a
    11 years ago

    Ok so Will DOES have 'Glacier' which is also known as 'Glacier Blue'.

    I'm going to rename my plant to 'Glacier'. ConiferKingdom does have the plant named and listed correctly. Don Howse and Buchholz have adopted the new name.

    What the hell Talon?

  • firefightergardener
    11 years ago

    Sorry Edwin, as I was to understand it(incorrectly), aka meant one or the other, but you clearly write it to mean

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Logan Pass' is correct, and aka, 'Lopalpun', an incorrect misnaming. I got it now. I'll fix this when I get home from work, thank you. Our language barrior isn't a problem but our understanding of how things are written is sometimes different. I am not being intentionally rude, just accidentally. :)

    -Will

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Will, I also had in mind that aka is a shortening for "also known as" which is differend to me then "one or the other"...
    Is this way of thinking right or wrong?

  • firefightergardener
    11 years ago

    Nope that is perfectly logical Edwin. I think my concern is that if plants are labeled correctly but carry 3-4 aka's, it might confuse people as to which is correct. As long as their interpretation isn't that 'any of these is a good ID for this plant" then it should work well. I know you work very hard to get the correct plants associated with their proper names and I just want to avoid future mistakes. I will keep aka's in my personal database but I will avoid them on here unless we have discussion/corrections as in the case of Abies lasiocarpa 'Logan Pass'.

    -Will

  • whaas_5a
    11 years ago

    Personally, I think the "also known as" label is helpful. It will helps others figure out which ones are duplicates and which is the original name.

  • severnside
    11 years ago

    How about AKABI (Also known as but incorrectly)

  • monkeytreeboy15
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Haha, Severn...

    Another one:

    'Utah'
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    -Sam

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Is anyone familiar with the Loomis Nursery in Boring, Oregon?
    They're showing a 'Glacier' pic at their website, but look at the specimen at the background, it does have a broom on top!
    Can someone check this out, Will (ffg)???
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  • gardener365
    11 years ago

    I sent an email to Jason Hupp as that's his neighborhood.
    I'll let you know what he says.

    Dax

  • whaas_5a
    11 years ago

    Thats better, but lets go with IAKA (incorrectly also known as).

  • monkeytreeboy15
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Any word on that broom yet?

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Prickly Pete'
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    -Sam

  • gardener365
    11 years ago

    Sorry about my late reply.

    Jason sent them an email, but I haven't heard back, yet.

    Jason's first thoughts is that it's not a broom but that it's a 'Vanderwolf's Pyramid' that the pruning crew at that nursery pruned that way for 'special' Christmas tree appeal.

    I'll send another email right now.

    Dax

  • severnside
    11 years ago

    That's a gorgeous 'Prickly Pete' there MTB.

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Kyle's Alpine' (courtesy of Gordon Haddow )
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  • severnside
    11 years ago

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Alpine Beauty' (again from Gordon Haddow)
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  • gardener365
    11 years ago

    The nursery said it isn't a broom. Should the situation change, I'll re-post.

    Dax

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    That's a pitty...

  • firefightergardener
    11 years ago

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Argentea'
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    'Green Globe' - Showing some signs of my abies concolor rust. Sad face.
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    Abies lasiocarpa 'Compacta' - not to be confused with Abies lasiocarpa var. Arizonica 'Glauca Compacta'.
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    'Kyle's Alpine'
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    Abies lasiocarpa 'Logan Pass' - Was known incorrectly as 'Lopalpun'. About ten years old.
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    -Will

  • firefightergardener
    11 years ago

    Species. Possibly a cultivar though if it is, it was widely available twenty years ago as the previous owners had no knowledge whatsoever of trees and was probably planted by generic landscapers.
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    Abies lasiocarpa 'Martha's Vineyard'
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    -Will

  • tsugajunkie z5 SE WI ♱
    11 years ago

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Glauca' foliage to the right
    with monarda, impatiens and unknown doug fir.

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    tj

  • whaas_5a
    11 years ago

    Love this species of plant!

    'Glauca Compacta'
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    'Glacier' AIKA (also incorrectly known as) 'Glacier Blue'
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    'Martha's Vineyard'
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  • maple_grove_gw
    11 years ago

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Prickly Pete'

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  • monkeytreeboy15
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    'DuFlon' (the most miniature fir I have; purchased from Coenosium Gardens
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    -Sam

  • severnside
    11 years ago

    Abies lasiocarpa 'Green Globe' I love the colour.
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  • rispetto
    11 years ago

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    Hobby Time

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    Kenwith Blue

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    Kelly's Alpine
    Is it the same as Kyle's Alpine?

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    Day Creek

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    Green Globe

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    WB

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    Mikolas

  • monkeytreeboy15
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Those are some cool ones, riseptto!

    'DuFlon' in late autumn
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    -Sam

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Sam, that's a beauty!
    Your's does have the shape of a mushroom.
    I'm glad that you wrote 'DuFlon' in the right way...thanks!

  • monkeytreeboy15
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Sometimes the angle of the photo can make the plant look much more appealing I've found..
    Thank you, Edwin. It is very important to write names in the proper way!

    -Sam

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