Abies lasiocarpa 'Siskyou'.- About 6-8 years old, showing it's first sign of a little sunburn(top right part). I pinched a few dying needles, fingers crossed. {{gwi:601826}}
Abies lasiocarpa 'Prickly Pete' - Was more green last year but it has nicer blue(correct?) tones this year with more sunshine. Last year(and the year before), we had abysmmally cloud-drenched Spring/Summers. {{gwi:601839}}
Abies lasiocarpa 'Hoyt WB' - Often mislabeled as Abies amabilis. {{gwi:601841}}
Will you could be right, my surch on the web showed me 'Glacier' and 'Glacier Blue' as the same plant with the same upright conical habbit.
The 'Glacier' which Clement was showing does have a completely differend habbit and is for me very interesting to put some time in for an investigation.
There's no other info to find about specimens with the same habit as Clement's...
But...maybe Clement can help us out with his info in which I'm very curious :0)
Many broom found by Horstmann father are named "Hexenbezen" in a first time. In 86/87 catalogue : Abies lasiocarpa "Hexenbezen" are proposed, but after some year renamed "Logan Pass" Logan Pass are situated in Glacier National Park, noted in the catalogue,by this way it's somtetime named "Glacier" Clement
Edwin, does this mean that 'Logan Pass' and 'Lopalpun' are the same clone? If I understand correctly, this would be the same plant that Clement states was referred to in the past as 'Glacier'? But different from the 'Glacier' that Will shows us? This becomes somewhat confusing...
Alex, yep, that's how the situation is. I know it's confusing, but the reason for this is that some people don't invest some time in research before they give a name to a plant...
'Logan Pass' and 'Lopalpun': With a bit fantasy it's clear that the last name derived from a badly written tag...
Thank you Edwin/Clement/everyone who helped sort all of this out.
I now label my plants as
Abies lasiocarpa 'Lopalpun' aka 'Logan Pass', the small broom above as Clement shows us and I will keep my specimen from Dick Bush named properly as
Abies lasiocarpa 'Glacier'. Is 'Glacier Blue' then incorrect as well? Thank you!
A few more today.
Abies lasiocarpa 'Lopalpun' - MODERATE shade, doing just fine - so far. I have another specimen I can show in 'full sun' and it will be curious to watch them both over the years. {{gwi:601852}}
Abies lasiocarpa var. Arizonica 'Glauca Compacta' - Common but beautiful and gardenworthy whereever it can be grown. {{gwi:601853}}
Will, it's the opposide, you've to name your specimen as 'Logan Pass' aka 'Lopalpun'. 'Lopalpun' arose as a miswriting and started to live it's own life. IMO I wrote this very clear 4 messago ago...
Dick Bush named his find 'Glacier'. It's the Buchholz Nursery who named it into 'Glacier Blue'.
Ok so Will DOES have 'Glacier' which is also known as 'Glacier Blue'.
I'm going to rename my plant to 'Glacier'. ConiferKingdom does have the plant named and listed correctly. Don Howse and Buchholz have adopted the new name.
Sorry Edwin, as I was to understand it(incorrectly), aka meant one or the other, but you clearly write it to mean
Abies lasiocarpa 'Logan Pass' is correct, and aka, 'Lopalpun', an incorrect misnaming. I got it now. I'll fix this when I get home from work, thank you. Our language barrior isn't a problem but our understanding of how things are written is sometimes different. I am not being intentionally rude, just accidentally. :)
Will, I also had in mind that aka is a shortening for "also known as" which is differend to me then "one or the other"... Is this way of thinking right or wrong?
Nope that is perfectly logical Edwin. I think my concern is that if plants are labeled correctly but carry 3-4 aka's, it might confuse people as to which is correct. As long as their interpretation isn't that 'any of these is a good ID for this plant" then it should work well. I know you work very hard to get the correct plants associated with their proper names and I just want to avoid future mistakes. I will keep aka's in my personal database but I will avoid them on here unless we have discussion/corrections as in the case of Abies lasiocarpa 'Logan Pass'.
Is anyone familiar with the Loomis Nursery in Boring, Oregon? They're showing a 'Glacier' pic at their website, but look at the specimen at the background, it does have a broom on top! Can someone check this out, Will (ffg)??? {{gwi:601861}}
Jason sent them an email, but I haven't heard back, yet.
Jason's first thoughts is that it's not a broom but that it's a 'Vanderwolf's Pyramid' that the pruning crew at that nursery pruned that way for 'special' Christmas tree appeal.
Species. Possibly a cultivar though if it is, it was widely available twenty years ago as the previous owners had no knowledge whatsoever of trees and was probably planted by generic landscapers. {{gwi:601885}}
Sometimes the angle of the photo can make the plant look much more appealing I've found.. Thank you, Edwin. It is very important to write names in the proper way!
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