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Posted by goodstav (My Page) on Sat, Jan 22, 11 at 3:47
Hi,
I've been taking some pictures when I spot an interesting conifer lately (well, at least interesting for me as coming from the southern subtropics). I'd like to share them and ask for ID if someone's up for it.
Conifer 1, in Barcelona, Montjuic:
Conifer 2: Wollemia nobilis, Jardin de Plantes, Paris:
Conifer 3: in Toulouse (sorry for the light)
Conifer 4: in Toulouse, France
Conifer 5: Araucaria araucana, in Toulouse
Conifer 6: in Toulouse
Conifer 7, in Toulouse
Conifer 8: Cedrus deodara, in Toulouse
Conifer 9: in Chateauroux, France:
Conifer 10: around Paris
Conifers 11/12: Araucaria araucana and Cedrus deodara growing together in the city of Paris
Conifer 13: xmas trees in Paris
Conifer 14: Parc de Sceaux, around Paris.. very well pruned cones. Taxus baccata?
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1. Picea glauca 'Conica'
2. as stated
3. Picea pungens
4. Cupressus nootkatensis
5. as stated
6. Pseudotsuga menziesii subsp. glauca
7. Abies concolor
8. as stated
9. Picea pungens
10. Picea abies
11. as stated
12. as stated
13. Abies nordmanniana
14. as stated Resin |
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| I agree with Resin, but Nr.6 I would say Picea breweriana. Wolfgang |
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| "but Nr.6 I would say Picea breweriana" Sorry, nope! - look at the buds and glaucous leaves in the foliage pic ;-) Resin |
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| O.K. the habitus is different,too! Wolfgang |
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| That Araucaria Araucana looks impressive! *notes down* |
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| Hi Richardus, your member page don't show us from which country you're, why didn't you fill out that part? |
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| Question: Last photo, on the right, what's going on with those deciduous trees that look like rectangles? What are those? Dax |
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| "Last photo, on the right, what's going on with those deciduous trees that look like rectangles? What are those?" More topiary. Most likely Hornbeam Carpinus betulus, that's the traditional species for this use. Resin |
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| Nice plants, and scenery! Merci! |
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| I love the Wollemia nobilis. Does it always stay that columner and narrow? mark |
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| Re: Coniferjoy I'm from Skopje, Macedonia. Trees and conifers are my relatively new obsession so I check the forum daily. I'm trying to figure out why we don't have a variety of trees and conifers over here... I tried updating my member page but on few ocassions I got error messages, I don't know why. Some of the info got saved, some didn't. |
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| Thanks, Resin. That would be the largest topiary in my experience on this planet! It brings a certain visual element, that's rather - dynamic. Dax |
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| "I'm from Skopje, Macedonia. .... I'm trying to figure out why we don't have a variety of trees and conifers over here... " You've got Macedonian Pine (Молика), what more could you ask for!
 Resin |
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the French love topiary. it's chestnut tree on that place, and london plane tree on some other rows in the same park.
some extra pictures below: |
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| Thanks for the pictures. I bet they don't let any old Tom, Dick or Harry equipped with garden shears near those cones! Wouldn't be surprised if they have a purpose-built machine to do the job. Then again, topiary masters do exist -spare no expense,please! T. |
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| Re: Pineresin Yeah, the Macedonian Pine, popular as Molika here. Typical for national park Pelister, beautiful place with a beautiful forest. Someone told me it only grows there, 1.400 meter and higher and wouldn't thrive in the lower places and cities? Is that true? I was thinking more of why we didn't have a selection of urban trees. I can only see linden, maple, oriental plane, populus, cypress arizonica, add two or three more and that's it. I stuggled to find an oak in the city and I finally found... two! |
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| "Someone told me it only grows there, 1.400 meter and higher and wouldn't thrive in the lower places and cities? Is that true? " Not all true, no; it is native more widely in the Balkans, e.g. the Pirin and Rila mountains in Bulgaria, and north to the Mokra Gora mountains on the Montenegro / Kosovo / Serbia border. Also it occurs naturally as low as 600m in some places. But whether it could be grown as low as 250m in Skopje, not sure. Try it and see! It might be successful if given a site with moist soil. Resin |
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well I come back to share one more picture and a thought... about how amazing the mediterranean climate is, allowing plants like Picea glauca 'Conica' to grow in the same city as banana trees (Barcelona).
The picture shows banana trees (producing bananas!) growing next to Cedrus libani 'Atlantica Glauca'. It looks like it's a little protected by the building, but still... and also spotted a Syagrus romanzoffiana in Barcelona, a palm tree native to where I live in subtropical South America. Not a conifer but it amazes me concerning climate zones... |
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Hi Goodstav. I think it has a lot to do with atmospheric humidity. The Picea glauca conicas also appear to be growing in semi-shade and are a bit sparse on needles in my opinion.
There is a lot of experimenting to be done with ornamentals in Mediterranean and Sub-Mediterranean climates.Then again,part of the public opinion is frankly against planting non-endemic species, thinking of this as being un-natural. They seem to forget that the stone Pine (Pinus pinea),the Cedars (C.libani ssp.,deodara),the vines,the Cypresses(C.sempervirens,arizonica,glabra,dupreziana),the fig-trees and many-if not most- of the fruit trees grown here have also been introduced by man. T. |
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Hi Tunilla,
yes, I agree that it has to do with atmospheric humidity.
I thought the stone pine, the cedars, Vitis vinifera, the fig-trees and some of the cypresses you mentioned were native to this Mediterranean area and not introduced by men here. |
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| "I thought the stone pine, the cedars, Vitis vinifera, the fig-trees and some of the cypresses you mentioned were native to this Mediterranean area and not introduced by men here" The Mediterranean is a large area; most of the species Tunilla names are only native to small parts of it, not the whole area. Stone Pine Pinus pinea: definitely native in Portugal, and southern & central Spain only. Other populations likely naturalised from ancient human cultivation. Lebanon Cedar Cedrus libani: naitve in the Atlas Mountains (subsp. atlantica) and Turkey to Lebanon (subsp. libani). Mediterranean Cypress Cupressus sempervirens: native to Crete, southern Turkey, and Cyrenaica (Libya) only. All populations north of the Med and west of Crete are cultivated origin. Vitis vinifera is the exception in being native across almost the entire Med. Resin |
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| Good call! It was nice touring the Parc de Sceaux again. |
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