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Posted by pauljohn (My Page) on Wed, Feb 3, 10 at 3:38
| hi, do you think I can grow goldcrest in containers along (against) a wall? Thanks, Paul |
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RE: goldcrest
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| hey paul where are you?? zone?? full name of goldcrest?? how big a pot?? what type of media in the pot??? how much sun?? color of wall??? dark walls can cook things ... as can black pots .... and.. welcome to the GW ... please give us some facts to work with ... sure .. anything can be grown in a pot ... but your success.. or failure ... will depend on all the other variables ... good luck ken |
RE: goldcrest
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| Monterey Cypress.... Use a bonsai mix pre-packaged. Mulch over the mix.
A larger pot will be much easier to keep the plant alive. Allow it to almost dry out between waterings but keeping careful attention to not letting it completely dry out. Good luck! Dax
p.s. container gardening itself is as old as dirt! |
RE: goldcrest
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| Depends on where you live. Here, Cupressus macrocarpa 'Goldcrest' or 'Wilma Goldcrest' is grown frequently as a container plant and some have been around in that form for a good number of years. It is rated hardy down to 0F (zone 7) but as with anything grown in a container, may be more susceptible to root damage with that kind of cold. Has often encountered the teens in this area without problem if in a decently sized container. Needs a fair amount of sun to maintain that bright chartreuse-gold color and tolerates reflected heat nicely. |
RE: goldcrest
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Wed, Feb 3, 10 at 13:11
| Although multiple yellow forms of Monterey cypress have been imported to North America for a long time Seattle (USDA 8) has few specimens of much size - even of the typical wild green species. Two or more yellow kinds have become highly prevalent in local outlets, including grocery stores, although attached directions depicting them as completely tender greenhouse plants are wrong I have also seen indications in recent winters that expecting them to take 0 degrees F. is liable to be a significant overstatement also. One of the bigger ones I have observed for some time was on Vashon Island, came apart during that heavy snow episode awhile back and was removed. |
RE: goldcrest
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| All manner of sources indicate a zone 7 hardiness for this plant, including Dirr and Oregon State University, and UK sites list it as 'fully hardy', which also corresponds to a zone 7 designation. Mine has never seemed to show any difficulties with severely cold zone 8 weather, so I doubt that rating is very far off. Any very narrow columnar conifer with upward sweeping branching could be expected to not tolerate heavy snow loads well, especially the extremely wet, heavy snow we experience here, when snow does fall. It is more adverse to hot weather than it is to cooler locations but zone 7 would likely be the limit of its cold tolerance. |
RE: goldcrest
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| 'Fully hardy' in Britain means zone 8, not zone 7. And there are plenty of places in Britain where Monterey Cypress can't be grown because it gets too cold. To be zone 7, it would need to be fully hardy in e.g. Denmark or much of Germany, and it can't be grown there at all. Resin |
RE: goldcrest
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Thu, Feb 4, 10 at 13:12
RE: goldcrest
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| Can monterey cypress take -15C/5f -18c/0f just wondered |
RE: goldcrest
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Thu, Feb 4, 10 at 15:27
| I had a yellow form, probably 'Goldcrest' purchased and planted on Camano Island, WA burn up completely the winter before this last one. 6 degrees F. was reported from the flats some miles away, in Stanwood. The supplier was growing it outdoors, the plant was in the new site long enough for the top to grow larger than at planting time (perhaps as long as two years). I also saw some damage to multiple other yellow ones in the region after that winter. Not everyone lives on the shores of Puget Sound, minimums fall right off as you move inland. Stanwood is within sight of salt water both to the north and to the south. Viburnum tinus hedges along the main drag through town were also effectively destroyed. |
RE: goldcrest
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| "Can monterey cypress take -15C" -15 possibly; -18 I'd say not. Resin |
RE: goldcrest
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| I've talked with people around here with a little experience. The successful ones say that with extra care and protection the first few winters, you can grow them in the ground. They're common and cheap enough to experiment with. This might be one of those cases where if you get a string of mild winters, and it can get established, it might survive the cold winter. You take your chances. If I had let a little thing like someone else's idea of zones get in the way, there would be fewer plants in my yard. |
RE: goldcrest
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Thu, Feb 4, 10 at 21:38
| If you believe you're in USDA 6 or 7 they won't last. Now that I think about it more there's a whole set of them that failed recently at a place behind ours here north of Seattle, less than 1/4 mile from Puget Sound. I have the impression the couple living there is from the Phillipines, he gardens their place like they were still in such a location. Has this formal border around the front, that was punctuated by gold Monterey cypresses for at least a few years - before they all burned up in the cold. |
RE: goldcrest
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Mon, Feb 8, 10 at 20:42
| I looked over at the ones next door driving by today and was reminded he still has them, having sheared off the singed exteriors instead of cutting them down. Now they look fine, except for having the outlines of cigars. |
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