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Picea neoveitchii

blue_yew
11 years ago

Received this photo is this the true Picea neoveitchii
Thanks.

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Comments (18)

  • clement_2006
    11 years ago

    Are you sure if it's the true plant ?,I buyed some in the past, but never the true neoveitchii !
    A good article are published in "The british Conifers Society Journal" n�16 - Spring 2011.by Chris Reynolds.
    It seem Picea neoveitchii are not in cultivation !?
    Clement

  • blue_yew
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Yes the photo was sent to me by Cees he runs Hulsdonk
    nursery in Belgium.

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Clement, that's Cees van Ostaayen of the Hulsdonk Garden Centre.
    Of coarse do you know him.
    Since he does have his new garden centre in Belgium it could be very interesting to pay him a visit for this special rare spruce.
    The only thing now is to find out if this plant is the true one...

  • clement_2006
    11 years ago

    For me it's not Picea wilsonii, too big cones.
    Here is wilsonii :
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    With more finer foliage
    Clement

  • dcsteg
    11 years ago

    The controversy never ends about who has the correct cultivar and who has the counter fit.

    Enough good people here to keep thing straight. I have had my share of corrections. It works for me.

    Dave

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Thanks Dave for your comment.
    I'm very glad that you believed the one's who were trying to help you to bring all to a correct naming of your conifer collection.

    In the past a lot of conifers with old Latin cultivar names were renamed for commercial proposes.
    Also conifers cultivars with a foreign cultivar name (other then English) were renamed for the same goal.

    Regulary here at this forum I tried to help our members with giving the correct names for their conifers.
    Most of the times they agree with my corrections, but I also came across some angry members which make me feel my help ungrateful...
    The situation about renaming conifers is still going on, so I guess my job here will never end.
    Somethimes this will happen peaceful, other times there will be a war.
    But I can live with that, all the effort is to keep the records straight...

  • pineresin
    11 years ago

    "For me it's not Picea wilsonii, too big cones"


    No cones on Blue Yew's plant!

    Resin

  • clement_2006
    11 years ago

    1) Resin and all
    I have the same plant, the cone look like picea abies.

    2) According to Coniferjoy, but not only.
    The problem come from the few interest for the species, however it's the base,how is possible to identify a cultivar if you don't know the species ?
    Also ,it's neccesary you ask to you some questions :It's realy the true plant ??
    I remember: Abies homolepis "F.R. Newman" in first named borisii regis. Borisii regis ... is't possible ?someone of you know 1 plant in garden, nurseries, collection ?? Is't possible to mix an european species with a japanese species ?
    Would you I remember (again) Picea jesoensis and alcoquiana ? grafted so many years by so many specialists ?
    Specialists ?? Or picea mariana cv for picea glauca ? ...
    Please study a little the species,it's very more easy after.
    Clement

  • pineresin
    11 years ago

    "1) Resin and all
    I have the same plant, the cone look like picea abies"

    Ah! If the cones look like Picea abies, it probably is Picea abies ;-)

    Resin

  • clement_2006
    11 years ago

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    2 cones from my plant.
    But it's not Picea abies.
    Clement

  • pineresin
    11 years ago

    Those look like Picea asperata cones

    Resin

  • clement_2006
    11 years ago

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    Picea ?? named neoveichii ??
    Clement

  • pineresin
    11 years ago

    That also looks like Picea asperata

    Resin

  • clement_2006
    11 years ago

    Yes, according to you, but it's the faster growth of this group.
    Clement

  • pineresin
    11 years ago

    Do you know the source of the plants? Wondering if a hybrid P. asperata x P. abies is possible?

    Resin

  • clement_2006
    11 years ago

    This plant come from a dutch nursery, a hybrid ? why not ? I dont know.
    Clement

  • jean_hoch
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Hi Clement, your false Picea
    neoveitchii seems to be a Picea meyeri or an intermediate
    taxon between P.
    meyerii and asperata
    that can be commonly found in the Picea neoveitchii aera. I had the chance to see three P. neoveitchii
    including the one on the link posted above
    by pineresin.

    pineresin is right, this species closely resembles Picea Torano

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