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Thujopsis

torreya-2006
16 years ago

Hi all

Anyonw know how much genetic diversity their is

between cultivated trees of Thujopsis dolabrta

Comments (14)

  • pineresin
    16 years ago

    Not a lot, as it is usually propagated by cuttings.

    Resin

  • torreya-2006
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    Hi Resin

    Thats what i thought their is no seed comeing out
    of Japan. How many clones would you say are in
    cultivation I know that their is the species and
    var hondae. but that horrid variegated cultivar
    always pops up with no genetic diversity.I would
    very much like to try Thujopsis from seed.I do
    however have cuttings from a Chris Page collection
    but they have still to root I hope they do before
    summer comes!!!

  • pineresin
    16 years ago

    How many clones, - sorry, no idea!

    Agree about that variegated one, fortunately, it usually doesn't have all that many yellow patches to spoil it.

    Good luck with the cuttings!

    Resin

  • torreya-2006
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    What about the fossil record if their is one for Thujopsis
    im sure it did occur outside Japan.

  • affliction-acs
    16 years ago

    Hi Torreya,

    As far as cultivars go. I think there are at least 6.

    I have T.d. Aurea (could be Aurescens)
    T.d. Compacta
    T.d. var. Hondai
    T.d. Nana
    T.d. Variegata

    I think there is a couple more cultivars in European collections. The Japanese foresty department also propagates their Thujopsis by cuttings as seeds produce a wide variation in habit. It is still used as a timber tree.

    Can't help you on the fossil records of the plant.

    Darren

  • torreya-2006
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    Hi Affliction Acs

    I think Compact and Nana are the same plant the Thujopsis
    has very few cultivars for some reason.

  • pineresin
    16 years ago

    No fossils definitely ascribed to Thujopsis, anywhere.

    Resin

  • torreya-2006
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    Hi Resin

    I spoke to Keith Rushforth and he thinks its possible
    that Thujopsis might be in Vietnam maybe growing on
    the highest mountains.

  • torreya-2006
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    Also is it true that Thujopsis dolabrta is Z5 hardy
    and Thujopsis dolabrata var hondae Z4 hardy anyone
    here growing Thujopsis in Z4 just interested.We have
    both forms here in Britain.

  • jaro_in_montreal
    16 years ago

    I have a small Thujopsis dolabrta 'Nana' that's doing really well here in Z5b.
    But so far its always been covered by snow in winter - which I gather is equivalent to ~Z7.
    No idea what would happen if were exposed at -23C.

  • botann
    15 years ago

    I just moved a 15 footer this week into a new area I'm finally landscaping around a pond I dug with a bulldozer 15 years ago. Where has the time gone?
    It started out variegated a bit, but now has lost the variegation.
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  • salicaceae
    15 years ago

    It seems to do well here - mine is looking healthy after 2 years in the ground in northern Florida.

  • garcanad
    15 years ago

    I have a T.d. Variegata that is more than 10 years neglected in a corner here in zone 5b. It has never suffered any winter damage (likely protected by a blue spruce right next to it.). It still remains at 2 ft height and spread. I am still trying to figure out how much room should I allow for it when I extract it out from the root mesh of the blue spruce coming spring.

  • coniferjoy
    15 years ago

    I have the following cultivars of Thujopsis:
    -'Altissima'
    -'Aurea'
    -'Cristata'
    -'Gracilis Variegata'
    -var. hondai (var. hondae)
    -var. hondai 'Filip's Variegated'
    -'Nana'
    -'Pendula'
    -'Variegata'

    Last year I found this white variegated mutation between the cuttingmaterial from a plant in my Pinetum.
    Till know I think this is the only cultivar of the var. hondai.
    Thujopsis dolabrata var. hondai
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