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Pinus mugo 'Tyrolean'

Posted by dcsteg 5b (My Page) on
Mon, Feb 1, 10 at 13:43

The tag on this mugo reads Pinus mugo mungus 'Tyrolean'

What's with the mungus?

Their link is all I can find but of course the language barrier stops me in my tracks.

Someone help explain.

Dave


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Here is a link that might be useful: Pinus mugo mungus


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RE: Pinus mugo 'Tyrolean'

Hi Dave. Possibly seed-grown P.mugo v.mughus from the Tyrolean Alps .So,probably not a cultivar, but a geographical variant I would think. T.


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RE: Pinus mugo 'Tyrolean'

There's not much info on the linked page -- regardless of language...
"SzerokoϾ" means width, "WysokoϾ" means height.

(and your tag says "mugus" not "mungus")

Nice plant though -- where'd you get it ?


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RE: Pinus mugo 'Tyrolean'

Tunilla is correct. A friend sent me an email with this page (use yahoo translater link below).
Pinus mugo pumilio 'Typ Tirol'

Here is a link that might be useful: Yahoo Translator Select German to English


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RE: Pinus mugo 'Tyrolean'

  • Posted by steg z6 (supposedly) SW C (My Page) on
    Wed, Feb 10, 10 at 16:59

Since those translators are usually complete Haufen Mist (you can look that one up), here are some of the finer points from the German.

-The last picture is from the grower's grounds and is about 15 years old, 60 cm wide x 30 cm high (which means jack squat to me, hah)
-That particular specimen was hand cut annually to keep its dense, mound-like form
-The original plant was found in the Italian Alps, in spite of what the name would indicate (Austria), and is used to a particularly sunny and airy (not densely planted) climate
-The grower cultivates over 10,000 of this species annually
-If you are planning to keep it shapely, it is 'imperative' to cut back the new growth every May or June by one half

Hope that is useful. Looks like a nice plant and a good find, Dave.

-Steg


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RE: Pinus mugo 'Tyrolean'

Here's basically what the text says:

Solitärpflanze, age about 15 years, width approx. 60 cm, height of approx. 30 cm.

Botani name: Pinus mugo pumilio "type Tirol"

German name: Dwarf Bergkiefer

Description: The selection type Tirol from Pinus mugo pumilio is a speciality of the nursery garden Helmers. We cultivate each year several 10,000 plants of this selection. The plants come of mother plants, which grow highly above in the Italian alps. From this seeds only the compact and shortnoble types are out-selected. These are then cut separately by hand of our gardners each year in form, so that they train the typical race-like character.

Intended purpose: In the single conditions in the mountain garden, rock-garden, heath garden, for graves. Also in groups very beautiful, laminar ensembles let themselves planted be formed. In the Japan garden fantastically as wavy cut surface planted. By the nature location in the alps the dwarf Bergkiefer highly above needs a very sunny not to moisten location. Then absolutely wash and wear, an annual a shortening of the new impulses in May/June around half promotes a still more compact stature. In the excavator bucket planted also without winter protection absolutely frost-hard.

Pinus mugo mungus 'Tyrolean' = Pinus mugo pumilio "type Tirol" how did we get there?

Thanks Steg for chiming in. Funny... my last name is Stegmaier but I can't speak a word of German. 3 generations from my relatives that could.

Dave


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RE: Pinus mugo ??? 'Tyrolean'

I guess I should have added...what is the correct name to put on this cultivars label? A little confusing at this point.

Dave


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RE: Pinus mugo 'Tyrolean'

The correct name is
Pinus mugo var. pumilio 'Typ Tirol'
It's the most natural dwarf variety of Pinus mugo var. pumilio from seed.
I'm very curious if there are also witches'brooms of this variety, they must be extremely small!


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RE: Pinus mugo 'Tyrolean'

Edwin, don't forget those plants are not natural, they are sheared to obtain such a dense appearance


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RE: Pinus mugo 'Tyrolean'

In respect to Steg writing that it is from Italy, and not Austria (which contains Tirol), please note that in present Italy there is an area called South Tyrol in which German speaking people live. I was there in vacation for 2 weeks. It was part of Austria before WW2, occupied by Austrians only, but given by Hitler to Mussolini as part of the Axis formation who then moved Italians into that area to italynize it, a sad story.


 
 

 

 


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