That is so odd that the yellow coloring is at the base of the plants growth while in most cases you usually see the variegation on the tips of new growth. Great find!

I noticed something somewhat similar on one of my neighbors Spruces a couple years but never gave it much thought until I saw these pictures. So I walked down the road and took a few pictures today.

Frank

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Geez Frank that is great. Maybe they'd let you take some scions for grafting.
Cher

Very interesting Picea abies. I would like to graft that next year.

Dax

My last comment because I sure don't want to continue to hijack this post, but is it too late to get some scions this year to graft Dax or are you spaced out with those hundreds you've done? :)
Cher

Spectacular fir Edwin!

And Frank, that's a super spruce too!

I've grafted all my seedlings.

Dax

frank.. i would call gee's and ask kary or gary.. if its not too late ....

if they still have understock .. i bet its still doable ... or worth the risk..

its not like you need to harvest the whole thing.. if it fails.. do some more next year ...

ken

edwin ...

did you ONLY graft the 3 in the first pic???

if the whole tree had to go ... i hope more than 3 were grafted

ken

Dont worry Ken, over 500 are grafted :0)

Nice finding with nice name. It isn't hardy for my garden.

and only you .... would have 500 understock laying around ... or was there some master plan ....

i have lost 3 a. n. golden spreaders ...

is it personal .. perhaps they hate me ...

or i did i mess up in my z5 ...

google seems to indicate z5 hardy.. which frankly.. i dont believe ... unless its all about micro .. or winter wind vs temp ...

probably should start my own post on this .... and i did ...

ken

Ken, all was a master plan, I knew of this special plant for a longer time and arranged everything well in advance.

I'm good to mother nature and will never mess with her, once and a while she's doing me a favour.
The other mother I'll never mess with is my mother in law ;0)

His mother in law.

Haaaaa

Dax

Yeah Dax, I do have one, how about you?

Btw what does "Dankashe" mean?

Dankashe - German for Thank You. People in the USA say Dankashe, it's common. It also means 'Bless You' when someone sneezes here. Of course you may correct me.

No Edwin, no mother in law. Only Mom.

Dax

I think you mean to say "danke schoen"...
The oe should bin written as an o with two dots above, but this forum doesn't except this way of writing since a year or so...it did in the past!

LOL Dax, I thought whatever you were saying was really a word in nether speak. LOL..

Also, Gesundheit is what you say when someone sneezes. That means bless you.

So is German the language you speak in your country Edwin?

No, in The Netherlands we speak Dutch which looks a lot like the German language...

Today's update in production.
The first Abies nordmanniana 'Filip's Goldheart' grafted in the first week of March and now potted up in a 2 liter container.
Also two others of my Nordmann Fir finds found on the same field were succesfull grafted as well.
These are 'Filip's Twisted' (in the back) and 'Filip's Perfect Column' (in the front)
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Definately one of them is mine, sooner or later! How about a close up of 'Filip's Twisted'? and some info...?

Fotis

I stood waiting in the queue, too!:)) However I've heard that nordmanniana in Latvia has bad feelings..... But will give it a try. I am, however, by the seaside. However the February promise to -30...... And our frequent thaws......

Ireena

Wonderful discovery Edwin (the man with the golden heart), I look forward to pictures of big specimens against blue skies...

Very, very, nice Edwin. You gotta be a happy man. Those are perfect scions for starter plants.

Dax

Wow, those pictures have me drooling.

Edwin, are they released for sale yet or are you waiting for them to get bigger?

Alex

Wow! Great find. Those all look amazing.
Jeff

This will be a succesfull plant!! It would be a perfect Christmas present for me... ooohh....

Great. I hope someone smuggles them into the US soon!

Fantastic stuff, Edwin!
I hope you bring some when you come visit the US soon...

-Sam

Gesundheit actually means 'the people's health'. That's all I got.

+oM

Thanks friends for your nice comments.
All these new finds will be realeased in a couple of years.
The fresh potted ones will serve as motherplants for furhur propagation.

These are some pics from the other new finds:
This is the first twisted one I ever came across of this species.
Abies nordmanniana 'Filip's Twisted'
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This is the most narrow one I ever came across of this species.
Abies nordmanniana 'Filip's Perfect Column'
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This is the most strange one I ever came across of this species.
It does have a verry slender habit and an open branch structure.
Abies nordmanniana 'Filip's Secret Mystery'
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Picea abies 'Bizarny'. Two years.

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Mirek, that's almost a 'Filip's Goldheart' look alike from another species :0)

Is the 'Bizarny' your found?

Edwin, all the four of them sound very interesting. What is the habit of 'Filip's Secret Mystery'? I mean, does it look like the habit of Picea omorika 'De Ruyter'? is it a dwarf? Any images of the original plants?

Fotis

Fotis, the habit of the 'Filip's Secret Mystery' is so strange that I can't compare to another conifer...

The thing was that the original one was sawn off allready and was down to the grond when I arived.
I was just in time to cut off the scions for propagating.

I only can show you the original one of the 'Filip's Perfect Column' which is a true beauty if you ask me...
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Picea abies 'Bizarny'
I did not found it, but Polish. Seedling.

Very interesting form Edwin! And it fits my small garden beautifuly. So the list is growing on...

Fotis

PS is this ready for sale, or will it be availiable for sale in two years like the others?

Fotis, normaly seen all the new Nordmann firs will be availlable in a couple of years, but may be I will make an exception for you... ;0)

This story about all the new one's will be continued when the time is there...

'Filip's Perfect Column' - very nice!
Richard

Looks great! 'Filip's Goldheart' is a great name too. Should become a very popular seller.

Another update 8 months later after the up potting of the one year old grafts.
They all grew very well and will get staked in spring 2014.
Abies nordmanniana 'Filip's Goldheart'

Detail pic.
The yellow colour will slowly appaer while the other green needles will get darker coloured by the week.

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Very interesting look. Are they not upright growers?

Wow. it's a masterpiece! strikingly beautiful variety! I hope someday I'll be the proud owner of ..

Excellent, Edwin!

Dax

Amazing!!! 'Filip's Goldheart' is just incredible. Everyone is going to be dying to get that one. That sharp coloration is just unbeliveable!

How strange, all my photos are not visible any longer...
I created a new album to avoid this problem because of almost reached bandwith, which worked well for only a couple of days...

In Starterdudeôs case there is also possibility of nutritiondisorder. When looked closely you can see that yellow needles are oldest of all, atleast it looks that way in pictures. There is not at all yellow in newest growth and once yellow needle will not turn back green anymore. Here in finland lack of Calium causes very similar coloration. Tree circulates nutritions into fresh needles and oldest growth is therefore turned bright yellow every year, (and later drops off).
If there is green foliage, older then yellow, then im wrong. Some scions should be taken for grafting to be sure, but you should also take a very close look on next tree, does it have same symptoms?

click the missing photo box and you can see the pics. just because we cannot see them here, they are still viewable.

Dax

Or is it the amound of pics I'm using for this forum?
Now we've to wait till the beginning of next mont before they're visible again...

Thanks Jon, Ruslan, Dax and Jari!
This story will get a furthur continue later on in autumn when then it's final colours will appaer.

Jon, the 'Filip's Goldheart' is an upright grower but all scions were taken as side branches.
Grafted plants from side branches will not grow upwards at first, they will grow flat or semi upright.
By staking them I'll create nice looking specimens with a straight trunk.

Ruslan, keep on looking in your nearby forests for brooms or other conifers with a special growing habit and maybe we can can trade then in the future ;0)

Jari, you could be right about that Picea glauca...
Frank, were they propagated last winter?

Got it - figured that was a possibility. Thanks!