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Some more mystery firs, ID wizards needed

A few of these are probably the same species. Two were acquired from Larry Stanley in 2009 and the other three were acquired via a local nursery in 2010-11.

First, one ID I think I have finally figured out, though it deserves some more expert opinion.

Abies chinsiensis 'Glauca Prostrata'?

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#1. Bought as Abies delavayi var. forrestii

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Now the unknowns. Some are probably delavayi/forestii but possible some others or hybrids here as well. Take your best shot.

#2.

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and the same plant(I am nearly sure)

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#3.

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#4.

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#5. Almost Abies koreana?

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Thanks in advance fellas.

-Will

Comments (12)

  • mmajicmann
    12 years ago

    Abies Manicuras 'Necessitas'?

  • dietzjm
    12 years ago

    Abies hangus 'Nailis'?

  • firefightergardener
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Well, close perhaps fellas but my opinion more like Abies worksharder 'Thenyous'!

  • mmajicmann
    12 years ago

    we kid you cause we have Pinus 'envious'. ;)

  • firefightergardener
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Haha, it's not hard to acquire, you just bite your nails and work in the dirt without gloves on.

    In all seriousness I sure wish I could finally solve some of these riddle plants.

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    12 years ago

    i am pretty sure.. they are all conifers ...

    what more do you really need to know ...

    the easiest solution.. is to get rid of them.. and solve your problem that way ....

    the druids might suggest they are more than an inanimate object.. but then they would roll it up and smoke it ... whats that all about ...

    now what i really want to know.. is gin just vodka flavored with juniper berry ??? maybe i should make that a separate post .... probably a potato issue ...

    ken

  • coniferjoy
    12 years ago

    #4 is Abies fargesii 'Headfort'.

  • brentm
    12 years ago

    Will-

    This are some shots in the dark...

    Abies chensiensis 'Prostrata Glauca' not chinsiensis 'Glauca Prostrata' - I haven't seen 'Prostrata' and 'Prostrata Glauca' side by side, but maybe they are one in the same...
    #1 does look like Abies delavayi var. forrestii
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    #2 Abies koreana
    #3 Abies balsamea seedling?
    #4 I think is Abies cephalonica 'Meyer's Dwarf' - white buds, good needle retention in interior, and the angle of the needles in the interior.
    #5 Abies koreana?

    -Brent

  • clement_2006
    12 years ago

    All are chinese fir.
    Certainly not balsamea,cephalonica ...
    chensiensis don't look chensiensis ,
    Probably all from delavay group ,except #1.
    Clement

  • brentm
    12 years ago

    Just took another look.

    I rescind by initial #3 ID guess.

    Likely delavayi as Clement suggested.

  • firefightergardener
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    First plant(NOT #1) remains a mystery though I do lean towards Abies chinsiensis 'Prostrata' or 'Glauca Prostrata'. It looks 'similar' to chinsiensis, dark, somewhat pointy needles, but not quite the same either. Inconclusive as far as I can tell and what others think.

    #1 *and* #3 are the same plant I think, Abies delavayi var. forrestii.

    #2. My research online looks like it may be Abies delavayi 'Nana'(or possibly 'Major Neish'?), which I have seen some photos of(or claiming to be). A compact Abies delavayi basically, though not as dwarf as 'Buchanan'. Thoughts?

    #3. Same as #1 probably Abies delavayi var. forrestii...

    #4. I concure 100% with Edwin.

    #5. The true unknown. Abies delavayi again??

    A good mystery and starting perhaps to sort itself out. Thanks for your chiming in guys, I'd be completely guessing without your help.

    -Will

  • firefightergardener
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Actually, one more adjustment for #2. Check out this link below. Sure looks like...

    Abies forrestii var georgei.


    -Will

    Here is a link that might be useful: Abies georgei

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