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Hobbiton conifers of the month, March

Another quick trip through my gardens and a late showing. I've been busy busy BUSY here moving plants, staking, pruning, cleaning, heck even watering. This week we're exploding into Spring with temps in the mid to upper 60s and sunshine for the next week or so.

I dig the new photobucket but the brutal advertisements on the garden web are really dampering my parade of photos I'll be sharing. Perhaps it's for the best, as I know some people don't want to see too many photos in the main forum area.

On to the plants!

Pinus mugo 'Sherwood Compact' - Becoming more common which is a great thing as this is a true dwarf mugo growing an inch or two a year.
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Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Blue Gem' - Fast growing but very narrow.
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Pinus densiflora x mugo 'Edsal Wood' - Really compact, beautiful green pine that grows pretty slowly.
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Picea abies 'Gold Finch' - One of the new gold seedlings from Bob Fincham.
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Pinus heldreichii 'Smidtii' - Great dark apple green color and compact form.
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Pinus nigra 'Brita' - Tiny little gal.
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Unknown chamaecyparis. Sure glows in the dark.
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Pinus mugo 'Carstens' and 'Zundert' both in the same image showing their different forms but similarly brilliant Winter color. Picea pungens 'Montana Ave.' Also in the foreground.

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A color shot of the lower gardens.
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-Will

Comments (23)

  • Windhaven
    11 years ago

    I love love LOVE looking at your gardens Will. Seeing the colors mixed in with all the shapes and textures always inspires me.

    Thanks for sharing!

  • outback63 Dennison
    11 years ago

    Your unknown Chamaecyparis .....

    Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Melody'

    Dave

  • tsugajunkie z5 SE WI ♱
    11 years ago

    Nice pix, Will, thank you. Is that Chammy 'Melody' perhaps?

    As for the mugo 'Sherwood Compact', it may start slow but this pic shows its potential. That's it in the middle.

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    tj

  • ritmatt
    11 years ago

    Wow, absolutely beautiful! I am so impressed. What state are you in?

  • PRO
    David Olszyk, President, American Conifer Society
    11 years ago

    Good stuff as always Will. I really like Pinus nigra 'Brita.' Never seen her before. She's a real cutie. The mystery Cham could also be Ch. obtusa 'Lucas.' Both have that really cool, netty foliage.

    'Schmidtii'
    'Schmidti'
    'Schmidt'
    'Schmid'
    ?????

    I've seen all these attempts to designate this one little tree. Can we finally settle on the correct name, please. (At least we all finally got the heldreichii part right, LOL).

  • monkeytreeboy15
    11 years ago

    'Lucas' would be my guess on that Chamaecyparis as well.
    'Melody' would still have a bronze color... unless your specimen is in shade..

    Dave, what about 'Smidt'?

    -Sam

  • PRO
    David Olszyk, President, American Conifer Society
    11 years ago

    'Smidt'
    'Smid'

    I've seen those as well. Absolutely crazy!

    ~Dave

  • hungrymind
    11 years ago

    Always enjoy your photos Will! Fine display of color and texture! thanks.

    Rob

  • Cher
    11 years ago

    Some great plant choices. I love both Cham's and still think Montana Ave is such a choice conifer to have. The golds on either side make it stand out.
    Cher

  • outback63 Dennison
    11 years ago

    Will,

    Use Monzilla Firefox with Ad Blocker. Put an end to all those advertisements.

    'Melody' and 'Lucas' appear to be the same cultivar.

    Any back ground on either? Maybe Joy can clear it up.

    'Smidt' is correct for the Pinus heldreichii .

    Dave

    Dave

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Will, I had in mind that you were out of lawn, your last pic is showing some.
    But after taking a closer look, I see you took it from your neighbour's side, right? :o)
    The focal point for me is your Picea abies 'Elegans'...

    'Melody' and 'Lucas' are not the same cultivar.
    The 'Melody' was found in the U.S. as a branch mutation on a Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Graciosa'.
    The 'Melody' does have a compact, upright growing habit.

    The 'Lucas' was found in The Netherlands as a chance seedling by the late Kas Koemans from Boskoop.
    This one does have a wide, upright growing habit.

    The true name is 'Smidtii' for the the Pinus heldreichii.
    This is because it was found by Eugene Smidt in 1926 in the wild in the neighbourhood of Sarajevo, Bosnia.
    Because this is before 1959, a double ii got involved.

    It was first propagated in 1964 and this makes people think that the correct cultivar name is 'Smidt'.
    This isn't true, the year of finding is always determinative...

  • outback63 Dennison
    11 years ago

    Joy

    Please clarify this. Have you changed your mind regarding this cultivars name?

    Read entire post in link.

    Dave

    Here is a link that might be useful: 'Schmidtii'

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Dave, yes, I did.
    My personal conifer database will be better by the day.
    This is because my fellow conifer minded friends around the world are giving me new info regularly.

    Because of the formerly not complete info it also was 'Smidt' for me for a long time. The new complete info for me says it's 'Smidtii'.

    In fact it must be written as 'ÃÂ midtii'...

  • maple_grove_gw
    11 years ago

    Will,

    Love that shot of C.l. 'Blue Gem'. It looks fantastic against the flowering Erica and the gold deodara, and the adjacent pungens really helps to highlight its blue color.

    some people don't want to see too many photos in the main forum area

    I think it's only the GW admins that feel this way. Forum members agree, the photos are the best part of the forum. I do agree that the new GW format has put a damper on the photos. Even with Adblock, the photos are now smaller than previously, with lower resolution and less detail. The format reflects GW's desire to optimize viewability on smartphones and tablets (really there were always a lot of ads). This is a real shame since it's sinking to the lowest common denominator...to cater to phone viewers, I have to suffer with smaller pictures on my widescreen computer monitor? In my book, this is a much bigger blow than moving the photo galleries to the 'Galleries' format.

    That said, I really hope these format woes don't dampen your enthusiasm for posting pics Will. Your photo posts are always a treat, plus they're a great resource for other ACS co-dependents.

    Alex

    This post was edited by maple_grove on Sat, Mar 30, 13 at 13:40

  • jinxz5
    11 years ago

    Will, I also enjoy your photos. Your garden is a delight. It seems your posts always bring about interesting civil discussion which I also enjoy. Thank you. Jay

  • firefightergardener
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Wow, thank you for the flattering comments. My gardens are chaos and overwhelming to most gardeners, but I am glad some of my conehead forum buddies enjoy them.

    Ritmass, I'm in Washington state, near Seattle.

    TJ, that's a GREAT looking specimen and still wonderfully dwarf to my eyes. Looks to be 15-20 years old as well. I can only hope mine looks that nice down the road.

    Edwin, you're correct, it's the neighbors, who stubbornly insists on an acre of turf. Moles, watering, brown messy turf in late Summer. Fertilizer, mowing, I just don't get it but to each their own. I DO love the 'Elegantissima' as well and it will remain in my lower gardens and I'll move others out of it's way(or prune it up ever so slightly).

    Dave, I don't actually get popups but as Alex alluded to, it's the shrinkening of the photo space that annoys me, and most of it, once the adds at the upper portion of the screen are gone, is 40% blank!

    I don't use a 'smartphone', and find them still pretty dumb but I do understand their cattering to the masses. It just makes me a little less eager to post photos and visit their site. I'm not going anywhere though. Fine people like you guys and gals keep me here.

    -Will

  • unprofessional
    11 years ago

    I'll admit your gardens are too busy for my tastes, but I still enjoy seeing your pictures and generally note one or two conifers I'll probably end up getting down the line, such as that Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Blue Gem'. Just how fast is it growing?

  • PRO
    David Olszyk, President, American Conifer Society
    11 years ago

    Edwin, I'd like to reexamine the 'Smidtii' problem. Since the the finders's name is Eugene ÃÂ midt, don't we as people who don't use that particual letter in our alphabet have to spell his name:

    Szmidt

    and therefore, shouldn't the cultivar name actually be:

    Pinus heldreichii 'Szmidtii'

    I'm applying the "umlaut rule" of German to the Czech language here. What do you think? . . .

    ~Dave

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Dave, you're right.
    The thing is that I learned the "umlaut thing" at a young age at high school.
    The "Czech language thing" I learned here at the forum recently ago, I guess nobody knew this before and that's why they got rid of the special marks and wrote it furthur the same way.
    The strange thing is that even collectors and nurseries from the Czech Republic write it like 'Smidtii'...

    Btw did you copy and paste the ÃÂ midt name or did you find the right buttons at your keyboard?

  • Simoni
    11 years ago

    Hi Edwin
    Finder is Eugen Smidt (in the year 1926), no hook over S...

    L+M S (sorry no S but ÃÂ )

  • PRO
    David Olszyk, President, American Conifer Society
    11 years ago

    Thank you Edwin and Lenny. This information brings the story to a close.

    I did a cut-and-paste, Edwin. I don't know what buttons to push. LOL. Have a great day my friends!

    ~Dave

  • coniferjoy
    11 years ago

    Lenny, I'did my homework well in advance, his name is Eugen ÃÂ midt with the hook above the S...

    Here is a link that might be useful: Eugen Å midt

  • Simoni
    11 years ago

    Hi Edwin,
    we have other information sources 8-), but in our list of plants we let Smidtii ..... thanks for the information
    L+M S