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some Pinus thunbergii

Posted by crypper z8 WA (My Page) on
Thu, Apr 9, 09 at 17:47

Hi all,

although I post only now and then, I really enjoy looking at all of the plants you folks post. Now here are a few from my yard. With candles just starting to extend, the pines are looking rather nice right now. I'll start with the thunbergii's since many of you don't have the climate to grow them well.

happy viewing,
Dave

Koto Buki
Pinus thunbergii 'Koto Buki' a nice young plant coming into it's own.

Banshosho
Pinus thunbergii 'Banshosho'

Ogon and Taihei
'Ogon' to the right, 'Taihei' to the left.

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on to some unique ones: Pinus thunbergii 'Ogi Matsu' has fasciated growth and fan like candles. (still a young plant with some years to get interesting)

and my latest edition which motivated me toward making this post:
Porky
Pinus thunbergii 'Porky' has very clumpy thick growth (maybe a tetraploid) and fused needles similar to Pinus strobus 'Bennett Clump Leaf.' This was not an easy tree to find. When I first encountered it, it turned into a "gotta have item."


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RE: some Pinus thunbergii

Thanks Dave. Come around again.

Dax


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RE: some Pinus thunbergii

Beautiful selection of thunbergii Dave the crypper...actually, beautiful garden all together!

I see lots of new little guys planted in the background as well as some older specimens, so you have been growing conifers for a while now.
How old is the Cedrus atlantica ‘Glauca Pendula’? I'm thinking about training one across a fence too but am worried the Cedrus will eventually get too heavy and knock the fence down.
Any advice?

Thanks,
Barbara


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Hi Barbara,

the 'Glauca Pendula' has been in the ground around 6 years now. The fence is made out of cedar which decays very slowly. At the point the fence is gone, the tree should be free standing and quite large.

Proud to say I've been successfully undergoing treatment for ACS for nearly 10 years. The only known therapy is to acquire strange and beautiful conifers as they become available.

Dave


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Hi dave,

Thanks for the nice Pinus thunbergii cultivars pictures you showed us, indeed now they are at their best looking moment when these candles start to grow.

I want give you some namecorrections from which I hope you will change them:
'Koto Buki' must be 'Kotobuki'
'Ogi Matsu' must be 'Ogi-matsu'

I have another picture of a Pinus thunbergii cultivar with the name 'Sayonara'
Pinus thunbergii 'sayonara'
Pinus thunbergii 'Sayonara'


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Nice photos!

Coniferjoy, 'Sayonara' is fantastic.
Thanks, guys,

Josh


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sure, I may stand corrected on my American english attempts at Japanese words. However, if we desire to mince words the way we do on this forum, shouldn't Pinus thunbergii 'Kotobuki' be properly represented as:

Pinus thunbergii '
kotobuki in Japanese '

if it's precision we're in search of, isn't it arogant of us to limit ourselves to western characters, especially with so many of our cultivars coming from places with different symbols (Japan/Czech Republic . . .) Hello, nomenclature committee, I think we're on to something here.

thank you for your consideration ;)


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The Porky is very unusual. Nice find!


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The true complete name of the cultivar 'Porky' is:
Pinus thunbergii var. monophylla 'Porky'.
The 2 needles are clustered to 1 needle.

This is the one at my Pinetum.
Pinus thunbergii var. monophylla 'Porky'
Pinus thunbergii var. monophylla 'Porky'


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Crypper's on to something with his nomenclature observations.
It seems that cultivars are most apt to change names upon entering a new country.
Bluespruce recently pointed out a good example of a new cultivar brought to the USA from Europe:
"What I can tell you is that Picea pungens 'John Paul II' is illegitimate, and the correct name is Picea pungens 'Bialobok'"

Is just anglicizing the name for better sales causing this nomenclature problem....?

Barbara


 
 

 

 


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