A double graft. Still need to remove some of the rootstock.

'Lucretia'

Dax, those Walnut Glen shots are gorgeous. They've got to be 20-30 years old.

mark

Hi Mark,

The larger specimen is at the Dubuque Arboretum in Iowa. It does look dynamite.

Nate, you can clip all the understock off. There's plenty of foliage to sustain the roots. Beautiful blue color.

Dax

More more more!

Picea pungens 'Sweet Roll'. About 4 years old.

'Silver Falls'. 3-4 years old. Supposed to be a sprawler, semi-weeper.

'Montgomory'. My specimen was one of my first conifer buys - a very popular 'Big Box Store' conifer. Strange look so far.

'Hermann Naue' - A very choice, heavy coning small dwarf. 3 years old maybe.

'Teton Tower'. So far towering over very few things. 3-4 years old.

-Will

Picea pungens Mseno

Picea pungens Thume

Picea pungens Olo
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Picea pungens Early Cones

Picea pungens Wendy

Picea pungens Maigold

Picea pungens Porcupine
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Picea pungens Nimetz

Picea pungens Hermann Naue
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Henk.

Henk wow! 'Nimetz' and 'Maigold' are awesome!

'Donna's Rainbow'. Not too exciting yet!

'Edith'

'Lucretia'. A little older. Looks narrow.

'Montana Ave.'. At least 10 years old, maybe closer to 15.

'Victor'

'Wisconsin Cream'. A very cool conifer. Normally more upright.

-Will

Maigold, Montgomery, Sunshine and Stanley's Pygmy

Here are three yearlings that were pummeled by a hailstorm last summer. It's good to see them making a recovery this spring!

'Miss Colorado'

'Teton 13'

'Mile Up 92'

What a lot of Picea pungens cultivars at this topic, very nice!

Richard, I like the 'Maigold' very much, it's a nice contrast with the green and yellow needles.

The correct name of the 'Montgomery' is 'R.H. Montgomery'.

Your 'Stanley's Pygmy' isn't a Picea pungens but a Picea glauca cultivar.
Please look at the flush it makes which is differend then from a Picea pungens cultivar.
Please see the Picea glauca topic and take a look at the 'Burning Well' showed by Will.
Here you see the same flush as your 'Stanley's Pygmy'.
Did you became your plant from the Kenwith Nursery?

I hope to see other photo's of the 'Stanley's Pygmy' for comparing.
Maybe the 'Stanley's Pygmy' isn't a Picea pungens cultivar...

Edwin, I bought the plant from Stephen at his open day in 2007. It is a very healthy robust plant. Anyway I imagine he will give you some more information about it.
I bought the Maigold from Hachmann nursery in Germany in October 2005. Seems to be doing pretty well!
Richard

According with Edwin, it's questionable about Picea pungens "Stanley's Pygmy" I study from some times and I think it's more Picea glauca than pungens.

Clément

I apologize that my plants aren't larger - I'm cataloging my collection so I'm shooting photos of basically every graft I've planted. I know they aren't much to look at!

Picea pungens 'Dietz Prostrate'

'Baby Blues'

'Fat Mac'

'Lutea'. Adds gold hues in later Summer.

'Stanley's Gold'. Mine may need staking!

'Summer Gold'. New pushes is a nice gold color. Rescued this one from the back isle of plants at Coenosiums.

-Will

Edwin & Clement,
Can't remember for certain where the material for my 'Stanley's Pygmy' came from, definitely not from Haddow at Kenwith, he has never listed the plant. it is possible it came from Ronald, but as I said I can't really be sure.

Stephen, my Picea glauca 'Cecilia' aka 'Skippack' looks the same as the Picea pungens 'Stanley's Pygmy'...

Clément

Clement if you dont mind me asking, where did you obtain that picea pungens ''Niemetz''. Coniferjoy helped me with finding out about where to purchase P p ''bialobok'' but i couldn't find out any info about P p ''Niemetz''

A handful more.

'Mrs. Cesarini'. Some suggest it's picea abies, whatever it is, it's beautiful and sometimes 'pushes twice'.

'Hunnewelliana'. A very nice colored blue mound.

'Blue Select'.

-Will

Bluegix,
Please contact me directly by mail.
clement_anthoine@hotmail.com
Clément

Stephen,
A 'Buchhol #3' does't exist, it must be 'Spring Ghost' you showed us.
Buchholz introduced 2 P. pungens cultivars which are 'Spring Ghost' and 'Spring Blast'.
The last one isn't the one at your photo...
This is no guessing story, Talon told this to me.
From where you received that 'Buchholz #3'?

PlantMarker asked about P.p. 'Gotelli prostrate' a few posts back....
Here's three of the 5 I have (...the idea being to eventually cover the ground completely with P.p. fronds, where there used to be a grass lawn)

That 'Gotelli Prostrate' sure looks lovely. Seems in direct competition with some of the other rambling blue spruce and it may have a small edge!

Picea pungens 'Blue Mesa'. Spreading dwarf.

'Blue Mist'. Just a baby, looks like a small one.

-Will

Dear Will!
You gave above a nice pic from 'Edith'.
Be careful, this is a very big tree. My one is about 15 meters tall after 25 years, and has taken till now 6 m in diameter. She has almost whitegrey cones.
Zsolt

The pedigree of 'Edith' seems following

Edith
H. J. van de Laar 1990
1975 Barabits E. HUN

Picea pungens ÂEditÂ
1990 Flora Nova Exhibition, Silver Med.
Egzota Nurs. of Mr.Barabits, Sopron HUN
M. M. Böhmer Nurs. Zundert HOL
Dendroflora 1990/27.
Extraordinary silver coloured clone. Cones are almost white.

I try to enclose a photo of Picea pungens 'Edith'
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from here: http://kep.tar.hu/mesterhazypinetum/50028971/11213242#2

Zsolt

Zsolt's link to Picea pungens Edith

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How to Zsolt:
Apply this link to your photo (you must add: .jpg) to your picture code which you show as:
http://img2.tar.hu/mesterhazypinetum/size2/11213242.jpg
and read this:
Example Picture Code

Dax

Excuse me, I opened your photo at your website to create a new link:

http://img2.tar.hu/mesterhazypinetum/size2/11213242.jpg

This new link when copy/pasted to the browser:

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You see the difference Zsolt? Otherwise we see this: because of using this link:

http://kep.tar.hu/mesterhazypinetum/50028971/11213242#2

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Dax

I love the blue colored trees. I don't have anything blue in my tiny garden. I've always been afraid it would stand out too much. Maybe I'm wrong though and it would look great.
rose

Dax!

I guess the problem. I linked a page with photo, not the photo itself. Thanks!

Zsolt

I have always wondered if Picea pungens Niemetz, bialobok, John Paul 2nd, and Fruhlingsgold are one of the same plant?

Yeahhh Zsolt!

florafun, coniferjoy knows the answer. I believe (John Paul II) is synonymous for 'Bialobok'.

Dax

Florafun, 'Bialobok' and 'John Paul II' are the same.
It's found in Poland and brought into the trade as 'Bialobok' but when it went to the U.S. somebody renamed it in 'John Paul II' which is illigitimate.

'Niemetz' shows it's white spring colour 2 weeks later then 'Bialobok'.

'Frülingsgold' (is German for 'Spring Gold') doesn't show us any gold in Spring, it's a creamy-white colour.
'Frühlingssilver' was a better choice...

Edwin,
Its not so simple. We know about 700 Picea pungens cultivars. From this mass it is possible, to make a genetic map of the species - which directions are known degenerating of seeds, brooms. Anyway, it is known, that Picea pungens brings sometimes different kinds of yellow or yellowish colourchanging seedlings. Why or why not, the polish breeders found more yellow needled clones, as usual.

Florafun, there are a lot of yellow pungenses. Just in Poland Jan Byczkowski beside Bialobok. I think we have to make borders in time, too.

Niemetz found his cultivar in 1905 in Temesvar Hungary. This is an "Aureospicata" type, where the needles has sometimes goldes shots.

I never heard of Picea pungens John Paul II, but a blueish Abies arnoldiana x John Paul II, yes. Germans has also nice selections, as Maigold - this is also a type, which goes back to green or blue in some weeks. This spring I found in Hungary a Picea pungens 'Kaibab Sárga' (Kaibab Yellow)in the Lakatos Nursery, which turns after a month back to blue. This all work like the Picea abies 'Finedonensis', or the Pusch-Rydal complex in Picea abies. A friend of mine selected not long ago Picea pungens 'Asztika'of seed, which starts with a rose-purple, than pale yellow,and green, and finally blue, and this theather happens in 2 months.

Anyway, these are all beautiful plants, and I congratulate everybody, who finds in the seedbed such happy coloured seedlings. I think, these rare selections are the jokes of the genetics, but we are only the crowd, who pay for the theatre of the nature...

Picea pungens 'Asztika'
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This is a late phase in June's end when colouring to pale bluish in the progress.

An other one to the extra pendulous variations

Picea pungens 'Nagykörös'
2002 Tóth Gyula wild found in Nagykõrös HUN
Tóth Gyula Nursery Gödöllõ, HUN
An incredible pendulous blue narrow column.

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The 'Nagykörös' is outstanding!

The information I have, is Jan Redyk of European Nursery in Oregon renamed Picea pungens 'Bialobok' to 'John Paul 11' to suit the American market.

Zsolt,
It's that simple as I wrote it, why make it complicated?

You mentioned that 'Niemetz' is from the Aureospicata group because of somethimes golden new growth which isn't golden but a creamy white, so it's one from the Argenteospicata group like 'Bialobok', "Byczkowski', 'Spring Ghost', 'Frühlingsgold', Spring Blast' and 'Walnut Glen'

The Aureospicata group contains the following cultivars:
'Golden Feathers'
'Maigold'
'Kornik 2000'
'Sunshine'
'Stanley's Golden'
'Gebelle's Golden Spring'
'Summer Gold'
'Early Gold'
'Colonial Gold'

Is the 'Asztica' at the photo the original one or is it allready propagated?
I like the differend spring colours as you described it.

Nate!
Some more about Picea pungens 'Nagykörös'
It was a great storm there, as I photographed this 40 years old beauty. Mr. Barabits has the Sequoiadendron giganteum 'Requiem', which works the same. The new branchlets are turning down in 2-4 years. You see a column, but it is a pendulous wonder!

Published 2010 Mesterházy in the Conifer Treasury of Hungary
Breeder/Found 2002 Tóth, Gyula wild found in Nagykörös HUN
(In Hungary the family name is the first name)
Introduced Tóth Gyula Nursery, Gödöllö HUN
Description An incredible pendulous blue narrw column
Photo documentation by me
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I found last years some of this kind pendulous wonders. Maybe not so blue, even grey or totally green.

Zsolt

Edwin,
I was going to make it clear, that all colourful selections are unique. We can or must compare them, but they are part of the conifer genetics. All are for me one, and never repeatable finds.
About the renaming
I don't like that, because the possibility of stoling a plant is in the story. I vote for totally description with all possible infos, this could save the well documented cultivars from "renaming". Open publicity could make a lot for the breeder's rights.

I follow the pendulous Picea pungens story from Hungary

Picea pungens Templomtorony
Published 2010 Mesterházy in the Conifer Treasury of Hungary 1.0
Breeder/Found 2005 wild found by Mesterházy Zsolt in Balatonboglár HUN
Introduced 2007 Tóth Gyula Nurs., Gödöllõ HUN
Description An incredible pendulous bluish narrow column.
Photo documentation by me
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Picea pungens Tetétlen
Published 2010 Mesterházy in the Conifer Treasury of Hungary 1.0
Breeder/Found wild found by Mesterházy Zsolt in Köröstetétlen HUN
Introduced 2008 Tóth Gyula Nurs., Gödöllõ HUN
2009 Mesterházy Pinetum, Erdõtarcsa HUN
2009 Jiri Holata into the Czech Republic (Jiri he has a graft from the firsts)
Description An incredible pendulous greenish narrow column.
Photo documentation by me, but no photo of the mother plant. Similat to ÂTemplomtoronyÂ
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Picea pungens Vidor
Published 2010 Mesterházy in the Conifer Treasury of Hungary
Breeder/Found 2010 Mesterházy Zsolt HUN wild found in the city of Budapest
Introduced 2011 Mesterházy Pinetum, Erdõtarcsa HUN
2011 Tóth Gyula Nursery Gödöllõ, HUN

Description Found in a small park in Szobránc Lane, Zugló, Budapest. A natural seedling dwarf, pendulous plant in bright middle green colour. Needles are looking forward, buds are light brown, branchlets after some years turn down to hanging, and this makes the plant a 1,5 m broad column. Some goldilocks cause a better view of this courious little beauty. At age of 40 years reach 4 meters.

Photo documentation by me
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As I brought the scions of 'Vidor' to Tóth Gyula, he told me: Jesus, this picea pungens is green! I answered him, ok blue ones can make anybody, but a green one? All Europe is full of the blue trees, we also need green ones, too!

Zsolt

Zsolt!

I've looked at your website for more photos of Picea pungens 'Asztika'. Yes one more is there but it shows no more than we already see. Could you show the color progress?

Dax

I like 'Olo'. It looks fasciated. Was it found as a witches broom, Henk?

-Sam

Clément, it's a strange one indeed!
Did you ask the owner for some scionswood?

No it's a private house,and the first branch are up 2 m. hight.I have see other strange Picea pungens var. glauca, but not always possible to stop for made photo.
Here it's 13h and I look for heat.
Clément

Picea pungens 'St. Mary's Broom' (with protection)

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tj

LOL tj, great.

Clément, that tree is outstanding. Do you think grafts would carry over that extremely narrow habit or do you think they did some pruning?

By grafting, it's very probable you have the same plant, with the same caractéristics.
Clément

Picea pungens Blue ball

Hello -

From where can one find Picea pungens 'Blue Horizon'?

Thanks!

PlantMarker

Picea pungens 'Blue Balls'--a plant no guy wants in his collection!

Hi where i can buy it?

plz give me number

regard