Chickadeedeedee.. I am originally from the Cleveland area. Elderly parents are still there and they have 25ft BACat there house along with a weeping BAS that goes halfway across the front of their house. They've been in the ground about 15 years now. I have seen the upright BAC cone, but never the weeping. there is another BAC a few houses down, but I don't think they need a mate to cone.

Can I ask where you bought your BAC? Bremecs by chance? I know they've been carrying them well before the all time record low -20F in 1994. I know theres went through that freeze with burn but regrowth. When I'm in NE Ohio, I'm often surprised to see how many BAC are planted. They seem to be thriving in Ohio. I know of a home in Canton where there is one that literally stretches all the way across the front of the house and over a detached garage. Its like something out of a book. beautiful plants.

We got the first two at PLANT CRAFTERS in Westlake on Center Ridge Road. The third was actually a funky Christmas tree from. place in Sheffield which sadly went out of business.

Remarkable and beautiful trees! Wouldn't mind having my own forest of these gentle trees. They doooo love water but otherwise just love being adored. LOL!

Thank you for your reply! :-)

Didn't know there was a weeping BAC! 8-) Need to look into that!

Ohio isn't *supposed* to be BAC territory, is it?

I know people are amazed at our Sequoia. He was soooo protected in winter until he got too tall. Maybe 20ft now? Was planted 7 days after the tragic 9/11 events. :*(

They aren't supposed to be hardy in Ohio at all.. I think they are even very marginal in the Cincinnati area and along the Ohio River in general. To tell you the truth, I can only recall one year when the Blue Atlas Cedars even burned, but they flushed out very nicely. I have read the literature which states -5F to -10F is the breaking point for them, but I have seen them come through -12F and lower in parts of NE Ohio in 2009 with some damage, but they all flushed new growth. I never had any issues with them when living in Ohio. Yes, there is a weeping blue atlas. The Bremecs out in Chesterland carries them and they have some beautiful specimens. I bought a gorgeous one years ago out there that is at my parents, that I still enjoy when I'm visiting with them. You should get yourself one for sure! :-) I grew sequoiadendron as well in Ohio and personally feel that they are cold hardier than the BAC. I've seen some of the blue varieties of sequoiadendron surviving and doing quite well in Ohio and Michigan and in some pretty "open" situations. The problem I see with sequoiadendron seems to be that they are susceptible to fungal disease due to high humidity/night temperatures and poorly drained soil.

I think once established for a few years the BAC and Sequoia adapt or maybe they are just getting more hardy? The Sequoia was babied through the first 5 or so winters . We also had a Giant Redwood that the idiot lawn guys repeatedly mowed over but it became a redwood bush. After maybe a seven year struggle he died. Would love to get another Giant redwood!

Need a weeping BAC too. LOL! Need a bigger yard as well....

Again ... Do I need two BACs for pollination and fertile seeds?

From a site about Lebanon Cedar :

The Lebanon cedar doesn't flower until it is 25-30 years old. The flowers, or catkins are unisexual, with both male and female flowers on the same tree. The 2-inch catkins are reddish in color.

If both sexes of cone flowers are on each tree, the tree has the ability to be self-fertile. Of course the more trees in the area, the more sources of pollen, should yield increased fertilization of the female cones.

I have a Cedar of Lebanon as well. Was planted in 2007.

Thanks.

"Again ... Do I need two BACs for pollination and fertile seeds?"

Yes.

"If both sexes of cone flowers are on each tree, the tree has the ability to be self-fertile"

It doesn't work like that with most conifers, they reject their own pollen. To get viable seed, they have to have pollen from a different specimen (genetically different; two specimens of one cultivar won't produce viable seed with each other)

Resin

Thanks. The younger BAC is too young to aid in pollination.