Picea abies Wichtel is COOL!!!! keep track of any duplicates...

blue wave looks chlorotic.. as some of my small ones do.. what if anything would you do about it??

thx for the effort

ken

Thanks Ken, I think a prop of Witchel can be made for you this winter. I am grafting about 1000 conifers here or there, just waiting to hear from the guy I want to buy the seedlings from ...

Any plants that are chloratic which have this tendency on my 7.0 ph do eventually turn blue or said color. That conifer (thanks for the gift) was blue until I planted it in the temp bed. That bed is at the bottom of a slope and is continuously moist so that may also be a part of the prob.

If I became extremely desperate, I'd buy a 50 lb bag of pelleted Sulphur and at the lowest setting on my hand crank whirleybird spreader I could open it at, I'd give that area a treatment. 50#'s or less that is. I've only inquired about the big bags.

Later my friend.

Dax

Dax, that's a great selection, thanks.

A local conifer enthusiast here said they were seeing improved resistance to chlorosis when grafting onto strobiformis, instead of strobus, particularly for calcareous soils.

Interesting Nate, I almost ordered strobiformis yesterday for I know it would be fine across the upper US, as an understock, and because my friends in the southern US could have better roots for, their climates. Then I got to thinking and said to myself, hell they all grow plants on strobus.

I indeed thank you for the advice, Nate.

[If I could get the understocks:
Pinus armandii (hardy seed source) would be my first go-to option... I don't know about chaulk tolerance with this species, however. In Europe, it is the #1 preferred undertock, choice. Pinus wallichiana, being second]

Dax

Dax, you showed us a nice selection of conifers again.

Can you give some discriptions and how these were found of the folowing one's:
-Pinus rigida 'Winter Time'
-Pinus virginiana 'Marrieta Quirry'

Picea orientalis 'Gold Start'
must be writen as:
Picea orientalis 'Golden Start'

Pseudotsuga menziesii 'Huovdany'
must be written as
Pseudotsuga menziesii 'Hvozdany'

Thanks Edwin, I've got those names, fixed in all files and folders.

Pinus rigida Winter Time is found on GW from member conifer50 growing in the wild in Georgia. It must be
grafted to ponderosa or rigida. Many propagations onto
sylvestris all died. This goes for all rigida cultivars.
Or, grafting must be made onto pines of 2's and 3's needles per fasicle. Here I have a photo of the original plant:

Pinus rigida Winter Time - ortet tree - 2009

Pinus rigida Winter Time gold winter color (it gets better!) photo 2007

Pinus rigida Winter Time just beginning to change color. 2008 photo:

Spellcheck on Pinus virginiana Marietta Quarry. This cultivar I cannot find any information about from my source of this scion. I will let you know when I find more information. Currently though this 1-year graft is growing between 4" and 6". It is quite fast for being 1-year grafed.

Dax

Here's a more recent pic of Pinus rigida Winter Time...BTW..It's now green once again!

02/10/10

Dax and Conifer50, both thanks for showing us the photo's of this very nice variety!
The only P. rigida I was familiar with is the 'Ben Wallet W.B.'.

To Dax:

Jay found this broom on the way to work and observed it for two years prior to our grafting weekend in '09 with Gary Gee, Bill Barger, et al. It has not been registered and the provisional name is Pinus virginiana(Marietta), as Chub would prefer us to indicate non-registered plants. It is in the Indianapolis area, and we are just trialing it now. We kept two grafts, and this spring they both put on quite a growth spurt, so do not know if it will be of any garden worth,or just a curiosity. E-mail me and I can send a JPEG of the broom if you are interested. Jay and Terri