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Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 9:41
Just curious about what people know about the Pinus parviflora and heat tolerance. I have read about people losing their parviflora last year due to heat. I had one where the needles browned up a little but has come back nicely this year. Where can I find some info on the subject or is some expert on here willing to share some of their expertise?
The reason I am asking is that I am planning on putting a Pinus parviflora in the hottest location I have with the least wind protection also if it will work. I was looking at Goldilocks. |
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| I'm in very different conditions than you are but I had to move my 'Goldylocks' out of full sun to a slightly more protected area. Admittedly, it was not just full sun, it was near blacktop, so even hotter. It burned badly and I considered just tossing it as it was a fairly small plant, but I am glad that I didn't as it leafed out nicely this year (I pruned it back a bit) and is looking good. The new location is about 70% sun, protected during the afternoon. See if someone closer to your location has input. We are summer dry, so no humidity and that may make a difference. Great plant, though! |
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| We are always dry. We are considered a semi-arid climate. Temps last year were over 50 days in a row of above 100. This year not as many over 100 but forecast starting Saturday 4-5 days in a row of over 100 again. The one thing we also get with the heat is wind. It would be located on the southwest side of my house about 8' from concrete and a couple feet from brick. |
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- Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 11:20
| That cultivar is extremely sensative and short lived. Start with a readily available cultivar with strong vigor and test it for yourself. I can't really comment on the heat since we average ten 90 degree or higher days in a given season. |
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| Whereabouts are you? Pinus parviflora is fairly heat tolerant, but not very; it is also not particularly drought tolerant. There are other pines that are a lot better for hot dry sites. You might want to consider one of the pinyon pines, or a Lacebark Pine Pinus bungeana. Resin |
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| first.. goldilocks is a piece of carp.. i have had 4 commit suicide in my yard ... DO NOT BUY IT... otherwise.. i have a half dozen or so parvs ... and have little or no problems with them in MI ... cold z5 .. former horse pasture.. rather windy ... and only water until established.. otherwise free range.. and it has been plus 90 for two summers running ... and i have no problem with them ... daves southern z5.. is much different as to heat ... and i think its a night heat/humidity thing.. and i would set off what he says as compared to my experience ... in other words.. dont focus only on day heat ... ken |
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| I'm in Oklahoma in the center of the country's heat dome. I've tried several parv's and find them touchy at best to survive in our humid heated summers. I completely agree with the above comments on Goldylocks'. Definitely cannot take full hot sun. Some parv's have made it here but usually when they are micro-climated in dappled shade and well watered. Stay away from all the golden varietals. I've had some luck with 'Ogon' but that's the only one. mark |
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| Gotcha. I will look for something a little more tolerant. I am looking for something with some hints of yellow like goldilocks has. I will do some more searching. The size of the plant was exactly what I was looking for also. I also have some parviflora but they are much more sheltered than this one would be. I do use a drip system, so my plants never suffer, other than not getting rain water that is. Thanks. |
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- Posted by dcsteg 5b Shawnee, KS. (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 13:35
| After I have read all this I have decided to tell all what works for me in hot humid Kansas City. All my Pinus parviflora do quite well here. Especially 'Tenysu-kasu' aka 'Goldylocks'. No special screening is given to them and all have full sun. I can't emphasize the importance of making sure these conifers have enough water during the summer season. You need to be on top of that or they will turn on you over night and brown out. Once they turn they don't recover. Remember water is the key. Dave |
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| I am in a Des Plaines, a near northern suburb of chicago and have two goldilocks that are thriving. The larger, more vigorous and colorful is on the south side of the house in full sun nearly all day. Never screened, on year three it pushed 6" of new growth this year. The smaller clearance special is in it's second season on the east side of the house. It is more green, but also put on about 2" this year. Both areas are protected from wind and both plants have been low maintenance and trouble free for me. I've heard plenty of bad things, but have had no issues myself. |
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John, get rid of the cultivar name 'Goldilocks', please change it in 'Tenysu-kasu' aka 'Goldylocks' like Dave mentioned 2 messages ago... Thanks! |
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| Having read the forums for a while, I wondered how many postings it would take for "the cultivar police" to get me. Only two postings! Thanks for the advice, I've never been very good with names. |
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- Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 22, 12 at 15:35
| Looks like I'll give this one a shot again, perhaps a larger size. John and Dave, could you share photos of your plants showing off their midwest glow? |
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Here's my one and a half year old Pinus parviflora 'Tenysu-kasu' aka 'Goldylocks'.
I was just looking at it yesterday and thinking - what a great plant! It's got a wonderful bright color. This one is pretty much in full sun, and is next to the sprinkler so it gets plenty of water. |
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- Posted by dcsteg 5b Shawnee, KS. (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 23, 12 at 13:27
| Pinus parviflora 'Tenysu-kasu' Dave 
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| I think I finally figured out how to post one picture at a time. Can't seem to get multiple. |

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| Hidden back behind that globe blue spruce that probably needs to go. |

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| Nice bungalow you have there, John. Nice plant, too. tj |
Here is a link that might be useful: How to post a pic
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- Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
Tue, Jun 26, 12 at 20:36
| You show-offs! Nice pics. John, perfect design you have there. A dwarf bosnian pine two down from the blue spruce on the left would look real nice. |
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- Posted by dcsteg 5b Shawnee, KS. (My Page) on
Tue, Jun 26, 12 at 22:02
| John, You scored big. A great setting. Love your house and the complimentary design that ties it all together. Dave |
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| I wish the forum had a "like" button of the sort sported by Facebook. I would have "liked" whaas' comment! Not because I agree (because I don't know the cultivars well enough) but because it probably took him milliseconds to scrutinize, analyze and retrieve a cultivar from a ridiculously large database in his head. I want to know stuff when *I* grow up. |
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| Thanks for the compliments, I've learned so much from this forum. Some great gardens to steal ideas from and exposure to new cultivars that three years ago, I had no idea existed. Home Depot has been replaced by Rich's, Garden of Eder and JCarlson. I like the idea of a dwarf bosnian. I don't know have one and don't know much about them. I considered adding another Picea Pungens Sester's Dwarf, but I already have one in the yard, I struggle with design and moved things around a few times to get to this point. I plan on removing the sidewalk and putting in a larger sweeping curve of pavers. At that point, the boxwoods will go (my wife likes them) and I'll move some more things around. My cooler stuff is on the property line on a berm I built last spring. Maybe I'll share that next year if I can get it closer to how I'd like it. |
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| Now the name has been written wrong many times!!!!!! It's 'Tenysu-kazu' Dax |
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| Dude, you can shop at JCarlson??? Me too!!! I am about an hour southwest of Rockford! I have visited Rich's but only on a school trip. I don't know Garden of (Eden? Eder?) Please tell.... Oh, and it is not called "stealing" it is called "inspiration." ;o) |
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| Garden of Eder is located in Franksville Wisconsin. http://www.garden-of-eder.com/ I really enjoyed their display gardens and they had some pretty cool stuff. I came home with a Picea Glauca Pendula, about a 9' for $350. I've been looking for a nice specimen for few years, this was the nicest and lowest priced for the size. They had (3) picea orientallis skylands for $95 a piece. There looked really nice. Container grown, just in and about 3' tall. I didn't check the post size, probably a 6 gallon, since I wasn't in the market for another one. I wasn't very impressed with their Japanese Maples, but I'll definitely go back for conifers. Very friendly staff and interesting history to the nursery as well. |
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