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| Four years of growth of a beauty I obtained from Bob's 'too big to ship' pile of plants. It was large, but not thrilled in it's pot for years ago and now it's even larger but with it's roots deep in the ground, it is a very beautiful, happy camper.
A very important note here to mention is that Bob Fincham and his distinguished collegues determined that this plant is almost certainly 'Silberperle', as selections of 'Silber Mavers' and 'Silberzwerg' are all rather indistinguishable with age and therefore for official labeling 'Silberperle' should be used'. -Will |
Here is a link that might be useful: Bob's musing on this trioka of plants.
Follow-Up Postings:
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- Posted by coniferjoy (My Page) on Wed, Jun 20, 12 at 2:09
| Will, I'm glad that you started this topic. 2 years ago Henk and I started an investigation to find out why several Abies koreana witches' brooms appaered on the market in a relative short time. From the beginning on we had in mind that there were only a few originals and the other must be just renamings... Guenter Horstmann found in 1986 a witches' broom on an Abies koreana which he first gave the temporary name 'Hexenbesen Horstmann No. 1' For some commercial reason other German Nurserymen renamed the 'Silberperle' into 'Silberkrueger' and 'Silberzwerg'. The 'Silberperle' found also it's way into the U.S. which was quickly renamed into 'Silver Pearl' and 'Silver Mavers' ('Silber Mavers' is incorrectly written). To make a long story short, this German Korean fir witches' broom does have 7 names: The same story goes for Abies koreana 'Kristallkugel'... |
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- Posted by firefightergardener 7/8 (fletchonthemove@hotmail.com) on Wed, Jun 20, 12 at 2:17
| Thank you Edwin, this is hugely valuabl, the history of the plant and the mistake shown for all to see. It's unfortunate that this happens but it's wonderful to see some hard detective work by you and others showing the duplicate cultivar name. This is far too common and one way we can reduce this is to use the proper name as often as possible and correct it when one of the illegitimate ones is used. I only have 'three years' of 'Kristallkugel' but I will post that anyways, just in case you'd like to add the history there too. :) -Will |
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- Posted by coniferjoy (My Page) on Wed, Jun 20, 12 at 17:45
| Will, 3 years of Abies koreana 'Kristallkugel' is good for me. Show us your pics and I will tell the full surprising story of it... |
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- Posted by greenhaven N Illinois 4b-5a (My Page) on Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 8:58
| Beautiful plant, of course! Your pictures help me on a number of levels, but most importantly help me see in action that conifer gardening is a process: I see different mulches used, placement of new rocks, movement of the various plants. Very dynamic, and this helps reduce my anxiety to 'get it right the first time.' Will, could I trouble you to ID all three other conifers in the 2011 photo? I tried zooming up the tag for the blue behind 'Silberperle' in the first photo to no avail. |
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- Posted by firefightergardener 7/8 (fletchonthemove@hotmail.com) on Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 17:05
| I'd be glad to Mrs. Greenhaven, and glad these photos help in your design/concepts. I feel I am young enough to continually change my gardens and I think my skill should improve as my experience and gardens evolve. You can see clear changes made as plants are moved, rocks are added and mulches are 'topped off'. The three conifers in the 2011 shot are: Top left: Pinus parviflora 'Azuma' -Will |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 17:37
| on this particular plant.. i solved the naming issue.. by never being able to find it to buy it ... lol ... so .. in theory.. my dB is correct.. as are my labels and tags ... supreme!!!! it was on my wish list for years.. but somehow.. i was never the lucky person to get sent one ... the history is fascinating.. and i am GLAD .. that there are peeps.. on both side of the pond.. interested in securing this info.. for posterity ... thx for the pix.. and joy.. for the history .. ken |
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- Posted by greenhaven N Illinois 4b-5a (My Page) on Thu, Jun 21, 12 at 21:46
| Thank you very much! I love them all...of course. I was first smitten by the Cedrus...I don't suppose I can grow that out here? But the P. parviflora has really wowed me! Is the Cedrus gone now? Or simply moved? I notice it missing from the 2012 photo. -Shannon |
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