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| On behalf of alley_cat I am requesting a thread that not only gives visual to your weepers, but info about footprint, siting, growth-rate, etc.
I hope you don't mind, alley_cat...I think that other thread will not garner the specific attention you wish, and it is a great idea! Wish I had some to start things off...well, I guess I can repost a photo of a P. engelmanni 'Bush's Lace' that I planted for a client and have on my wishlist. Growth rate? Dunno. My impression from the grower is that it tends to be more narrow in habit. I have given it a 15-foot space to grow into:
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- Posted by firefightergardener 7/8 (fletchonthemove@hotmail.com) on Wed, Jul 18, 12 at 17:00
| I also read it and thought, better to title something like Greenhaven as done above. I can add some shots this afternoon as it's grey and cool and I am catching up on a lot of work and photo databasing. Most of these are group-plantings and if individual shots are requested, I can provide any people would like to see. Naturally, many of my weepers are relatively small still, being 5-10 years old and less then four years in the ground in most cases. Abies procera 'Delbar's Cascade' - A strongly growing, upright-weeper, ala Picea omorika 'Pendula Bruns'. Interesting the main leader this year hasn't grown much but the sides have. To be continued! Pseudotsuga menziesii [Yang's Monster Weeper] - Still not introduced, this seedling selected about 15 years ago by a friend of mine grows *incredibly* fast, in all directions but up. As you can see here, the multiple leaders twist and wind all over the place and grow at 2-3' a year. Amazingly this plant has only been in the ground 15 months. The 'other leaders'. Juniperus communis 'Horstmann'. A fast growing, somewhat weeping cultivar I staked for some height. Sequoiadendron giganteum 'Pendulum' - One of the most interestingly weeping conifers you can possible grow. In old age no two are alike and all are amazingly animal like. Pseudotsuga menziesii [Yang's Blue Weeper] - Another seedling selection, extremely dense, strongly weeping and teal-blue. Not nearly as fast as the monster above though. A group planting. Picea abies 'Pendula', Picea pungens 'The Blues', Picea abies 'Gold Drift', Picea omorika 'Pendula Bruns(doing naughty things), Picea engelmannii 'Bush's Lace', Pinus banksiana 'Uncle Fogy', Cedrus deodara 'Divinely Blue' and Picea glauca 'Pendula' all present. I love the chaos, sorry for those who'd like to see a dozen feet of mulch surrounding each specimen. Picea pungens 'The Blues' -Will |
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- Posted by greenhaven N Illinois 4b-5a (My Page) on Wed, Jul 18, 12 at 17:18
| Will, I love the chaos, too! I am diggin' on that J. communis 'Horstmann' |
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- Posted by Fiddlegal08 8 (My Page) on Wed, Jul 18, 12 at 18:47
| Holy cow! That Yang's Monster is so schizophrenic! I'm giving him some music! I'm so excited to watch this post develop. I need narrow weepers!!! My Picea pungens 'Glauca Slenderina' which I think is the same as The Blues... still a baby. The King of all weepers (imho), Picea abies 'Pendula'... he's royalty! This one's been in the ground for 6 years and he is still politely staying in his two-foot space like a giant chessman! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Yang Monster Music
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| Heres my little Picea glauca 'pendula'. Gonna ride out the rest of the summer potted-up. Im sure im gonna pick up 'The Blues' one of theses days...that ones been on my mind for quite some time. Awesome fotos.....i hope they keep rollin in! AL |
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- Posted by firefightergardener 7/8 (fletchonthemove@hotmail.com) on Fri, Jul 20, 12 at 2:13
| Great plant Fiddlegal, though it's Picea *glauca* 'Pendula' unless my eyes wholy deceive me. Several weepers occupy this rock wall. Amongst them are Cedrus deodara 'Divinely Blue', Pinus strobus 'Pendula', Picea abies 'Pendula'(though possibly another cultivar), Cedrus deodara 'Bergmann's Gold Prostrate', Picea pungens 'Procumbens(which was staked) and Acer palmatum 'Ryusen'. -Will |
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- Posted by coniferjoy 10 (info@edwinsmitsconifers.com) on Fri, Jul 20, 12 at 2:37
| Will, you're right, Ellen's weeping spruce is a Picea glauca 'Pendula'. Your weeping Norway spruce is a Picea abies 'Cobra'. |
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- Posted by monkeytreeboy15 Zone 7b/8a (My Page) on Fri, Jul 20, 12 at 3:03
| Agree with all of that, and I am somewhat envious of your 'Cobra', Will. That cultivar has fascinated me for quite some time. Also, what is the longer-needled pine on the left in your second-to-last picture in your post from the 18th? Sequoiadendron giganteum 'Barabits Requiem' (a Hungarian selection, I believe) The leader died in a harsh winter a couple years ago, but it seems to be straightening up on its own. -Sam |
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- Posted by greenhaven N Illinois 4b-5a (My Page) on Fri, Jul 20, 12 at 8:26
| Loving them all!!! I thought I didn't like 'Cobra' but I really, really do! I wish we could grow the Cedrus' but I will be content to ogle everyone else's. |
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- Posted by greenhaven N Illinois 4b-5a (My Page) on Fri, Jul 20, 12 at 9:36
| Loving them all!!! I thought I didn't like 'Cobra' but I really, really do! I wish we could grow the Cedrus' but I will be content to ogle everyone else's. |
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- Posted by Fiddlegal08 8 (My Page) on Fri, Jul 20, 12 at 12:42
| Ack! Picea GLAUCA 'Pendula'! I knew that. Too much obsessing on why there is Abies... and Picea abies... and Tsuga... and Pseudotsuga... and why Firs are members of the Pine family... and why cedars are not members of the Cedrus family... It isn't fair! Kindergarteners should never go out to play with the big boys! |
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| Picea abies 'Cobra' can mis-behave. I have seen some wild ones. When I saw this one, left of center, it appeared to be containable. So far I was right. D
Psedudotsuga menziesii 'Graceful Grace' center. Picea abies 'Frohburg' front center. |
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- Posted by firefightergardener 7/8 (fletchonthemove@hotmail.com) on Fri, Jul 20, 12 at 20:04
| Closer up. Picea abies 'Corba' - Thank you Edwin for the ID, as usual. Picea abies 'Pendula' A classic, I'll try and get this one over twenty feet tall before I let it go. 'Gold Drift' - Strongly weeping and strongly beautiful. Cedrus deodara 'Emerald Falls' - A monster super-fast growing, dark green needled cedar. Four years in the ground and easily ten feet+ new growth in those 3+ years. Cedrus deodara 'Raywood's Contorted' - A Dr. Seuss plant for sure. -Will |
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- Posted by coniferjoy 10 (info@edwinsmitsconifers.com) on Thu, Jul 26, 12 at 8:17
| Will, you're welcome, but it is 'Cobra' instead of 'Corba'... ;0) |
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- Posted by firefightergardener 7/8 (fletchonthemove@hotmail.com) on Thu, Jul 26, 12 at 11:11
| Ahh for crying out loud, now I get the name corrected to me and I make a typo. Picea abies 'Cobra' Thanks Edwin. -Will |
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- Posted by plantman56 z6 PA (My Page) on Thu, Jul 26, 12 at 12:42
| Cedrus atlantica 'Glauca Pendula' - In this location about 22 years - Photo taken in 2007, it has grown a little since then.
Another favorite - From the Oregon Garden Picea glauca Pendula, mine does not look this good! Find out more ---- http://www.conifersociety.org/ Mike |
Here is a link that might be useful: Garden Design Ideas
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- Posted by plantman56 z6 PA (My Page) on Sat, Jul 28, 12 at 6:51
| A more current photo of my Cedrus |
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- Posted by coniferjoy 10 (info@edwinsmitsconifers.com) on Sat, Jul 28, 12 at 6:57
| Mike, that's a very nice Cedrus! How old is it now and how big was it when you planted it? |
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| Mike you win the prize. That is one serious looking Cedrus. I would have loved hiding under there when I was a kid. :) Cher |
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- Posted by gardener365 IL 5/6 (My Page) on Sat, Jul 28, 12 at 7:46
| Wow, that is a beast. Very nice plantman. Dax |
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| Tsuga canadensis, 'Sargent's Weeping'. Correction, if needed, appreciated. Mike
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| I was quite mesmerized by this 'Bush' Lace' at the Chicago Botnaic Gardens.
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- Posted by greenhaven N Illinois 4b-5a (My Page) on Sun, Jul 29, 12 at 14:29
| That Bush's Lace is amazing, and the companions really all make each other pop. Plantman, I am with the others: that Cedrus makes me speechless! Stunning! |
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| I didn't catch that Cedrus...my little one sure would have a blast weaving in and out of that living maze. |
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- Posted by coniferjoy 10 (info@edwinsmitsconifers.com) on Mon, Jul 30, 12 at 1:51
| Mike, Tsuga canadensis, 'Sargent's Weeping' is a synonym for Tsuga canadensis 'Pendula'... |
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- Posted by monkeytreeboy15 Zone 7b/8a (My Page) on Mon, Jul 30, 12 at 1:55
| But was 'Pendula' found within the period in which it was legal to Latinize cultivar names? Or is 'Sargent's Weeping' truly the appropriate name? -Sam |
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- Posted by coniferjoy 10 (info@edwinsmitsconifers.com) on Mon, Jul 30, 12 at 2:05
| This is because the commercial name is "Sargent's Weeping Hemlock". 'Pendula' doesn't say nothing to a lot of people... |
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- Posted by Glaciers-End 8WA (My Page) on Mon, Jul 30, 12 at 11:23
| a few other choice selections from Glacier's End. Cedrus libani 'Beacon Hill.' Its provenance is questionable. There's a Beacon Hill Park in Victoria, BC which is perhaps where the plant was found. If so, we can also infer that Gordon Bentham was the guy who found it. Puchased from Coenosium Gardens long ago. Sequoia sempervirens 'Mt. Loma Prieta Spike.' A strict weeping Coast Redwood. This is an Buchholz & Buchholz product. Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Imbricata Pendula.' Another Buchholz product. This is grafted onto Buchholz's own phytophthora-resistant understock, which explains why I have such a healthy specimen in Western Washington. Here's one of my Picea omorika 'Pendula Bruns.' For now just try to concentrate on the eccentric behavior on the leader. The bald spot in the middle is from some buck rubbing last fall. This fall he goes behind a fence and the hole should be gone in a season or two. ~Dave |
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| Interesting selections and nice pictures! Richard |
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- Posted by gardener365 IL 5/6 (My Page) on Mon, Jul 30, 12 at 18:24
| That Bush's Lace is fine. Dave, like Sequoia sempervirens 'Mt. Loma Prieta Spike', and your crocosmia in front of, looks mighty fine itself. Dax |
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| Dave, I see you have some Crocosmia, 'Lucifer' and some Phlomis. I have those also. Phlomis isn't very common as far as I know. Here is some Phlomis in front of a Sequoiadendron I planted over 30 years ago.  In keeping with the 'Weeping' theme, here's one of my weeping Sequoiadendrons called 'Pendula' that died from a Woodpecker commonly known as a Sapsucker. I have other words for them, but really can't put them on this forum. They eventually killed the Cedrus behind it. Now you can understand why I can't. Heck, they killed another one I had, plus they have weakened my oldest at about 40 years, and it's slowly dying. Damn near as bad as the drought in the midwest! |
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| plantman56 z6 PA (My Page) on Sat, Jul 28, 12 at 6:51 plantman, that Cedrus is absolutely stunning... |
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- Posted by plantman56 z6 PA (My Page) on Sat, Aug 11, 12 at 21:59
| Sorry for the delay - I purchased that Cedrus about 22 years ago. I believe was in a 10gal pot, about 4-5ft high, with one branch bending. To create the planting site, I had a load of soil delivered to create a large mounded bed. So it is growing in great conditions. Each year I prop a branch or two with a 2x2 for support. Right now it is starting to move into my neighbors yard and I need to carefully prune and redirect . Thanks all - |
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