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- Posted by wisconsitom 4/5 WI (My Page) on Sun, Sep 9, 12 at 18:48
| Mike, what be the glaucus-looking tree to our R. of the Crypt. in pic. 2? +oM |
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| Lawson cypress such as 'Oregon Blue'. The biggest or one of the biggest 'Sekkan' I have seen is in the parking lot area at Heronswood. It seems to be becoming significantly less yellow with age, as yellow conifer cultivars often do. 'Sekkan' may be most at home in a sunny sheltered glade, where it can look quite lovely. Forking, bushiness and discoloration I associate with exposure, although now that you mention it it may be true that this one usually has more going on inside the canopy than seedlings and consistently single-trunked cultivars. The resulting density could be seen as a desirable feature, preferable to the gauntness often seen among Cryptomeria with the typical habit. I haven't seen this one breaking up, but maybe a year is coming where there will be a lot of failures - same as with all the falling open of fastigiate arborvitaes, junipers and yews some winters. |
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- Posted by wisconsitom 4/5 WI (My Page) on Sun, Sep 9, 12 at 22:08
| Thanks BB. I still would like to plant a few of these things-blue-phase Lawson Cypress-up at my land just for fun. But all the pictures of the various cultivars show a plant with the exaggerated dense, conical growth form. I'm after something with more "normal" density associated with speices Chamaes, Thujas, etc. Not tight little cones. This one looks like it may have such a form. +oM |
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- Posted by formandfoliage 9b (Sunset zone 15) (My Page) on Sun, Sep 9, 12 at 23:19
| +toM here is my 'Oregon Blue Weeping' - it has been in for about three years and was fairly decent-sized when I got it (a #15). The lawsonianas are reputed to do poorly here due to hot dry summers but so far so good. I have not pruned or shaped it in any way. Three years is not very long, however...I have had less success with 'Pelt's Blue'. My 'Sekkan Sugi' (is that the same as 'Sekkan'?) is growing about three times as fast as OBW, and has no structural defaults. I realize different genera but just for comparison. Notes from Northern California, may not be applicable to where you are. Sara |
Here is a link that might be useful: Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Oregon Blue Weeping'
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| Photo at link shows 'Oregon Blue'. The "Weeping" would be superfluous. |
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- Posted by formandfoliage 9b (Sunset zone 15) (My Page) on Sun, Sep 9, 12 at 23:59
| I bought it as 'Oregon Blue Weeping'. Is the correct name simply 'Oregon Blue'? Thx, Sara |
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| Somebody probably thought 'Oregon Blue' was a weeper, as in 'Oregon Blue' weeping Lawson cypress rather than 'Oregon Blue Weeping' Lawson cypress. Or some side-branches were grafted or rooted and put on the market as 'Oregon Blue Weeping', while these were still growing sideways, as branches - with a leader having been made later in the case of the one you ended up with. |
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- Posted by formandfoliage 9b (Sunset zone 15) (My Page) on Mon, Sep 10, 12 at 21:12
| It is not very weepy! At least not compared to some weepers, such as Cupressus cashmeriana, which is my idea of a weeper. I am correcting, thx! |
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- Posted by greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a (My Page) on Tue, Sep 11, 12 at 10:12
| Form and Foliage, the Japanese name for Cryptomeria is Sugi, so this cultivar is actually just 'Sekkan.' Mike, I always enjoy seeing your gardens, and especially your Cryptomeria. We've had a hot |
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| Looks like it's time to make the mulched area quite a bit wider. |
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- Posted by greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a (My Page) on Tue, Sep 11, 12 at 12:54
| Probably is. The mulch only extends about a foot beyond the foliage, and that is where I'll set the soaker-hose. At least the deer don't eat this one ;-) Josh |
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| I'm curious - what's the tallest Sekkan Sugi anyone has ever seen? (not using '', because this just means yellow cedar in Japanese, apparently) I'm guessing botann's was rather large but webshots has gone haywire. NCSU has one that's 36', can't be that old since JC brought all that kind of stuff in around the late 70s-mid 80s. This page amusingly says 10' for mature height, while showing an obviously contradictory picture: |
Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.greatplantpicks.org/plantlists/view/469
This post was edited by davidrt28 on Sat, Feb 9, 13 at 21:44
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- Posted by greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a (My Page) on Sun, Feb 10, 13 at 13:39
| Hey, David, in my area I've only seen young specimens. The garden where I worked over the summer had a handful of 10-footers, which I was pleased to see. As for the nomenclature, I'd thought this to be a proper cultivar, deserving of the single apostrophe
Josh |
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| It is a proper cultivar; I was confusing the issue. It just amuses me that the cultivar name is just an English transliteration of a Japanese common name. |
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