How much land do you have for all that? Haha...and I would assume you have an empty wallet.

Enjoy planting it, you've got some beauties there.

perfect time in MI ...

get to work ... try to get it done by the end of Oct ...

6 to 8 weeks before the suspended animation of ground freeze ...

there are alternatives for those that dont get planted.. will school you in that.. if need be ...

INSURE that they dont dry out in November.. if there is some bizarre drought ... possible.. but not probable ...

insure some mulch.. in case they are small and have any inclination to pop out of the ground due to heave ... if we dont have a good snow cover ...

also if small.. and anyone might actually go stomping around in ugly shoes in snow.. mark them with stakes.. just so you know where NOT to walk .... though on your property ... i doubt that will be an issue ...

mostly bulletproof...

good luck on long term success with nigra and the thunber .. most have removed themselves from my collection.. lol ...

and i never had the guts to try the cedrus ... i wish you luck.. but doubt success ... but i understand.. the need to give it a go ...

congrats....

care to show some pix????

ken

So conifers I planted this fall should be watered through November?

Is fall really the best time to plant conifers? I seem to read on other sites that spring is better?

WOW, What a list,,, good taste.....you can tell your a conifer forum regular. lol. Best of luck and take some photos!

Al

Fall planting is excellent in many areas where the ground is still warm and the days/nights aren't too cold. That still-warm soil allows the roots to do some extending/establishing before the Winter snap, and then the trees wake up with some roots theoretically in place for the next Spring push.

Josh

Happy!

Western Evergreen rules.

This post was edited by unprofessional on Sat, Oct 26, 13 at 8:20

Excellent. Plus you have a wonderful setting.

Dax

Jon, you bought yourself a very nice selection of conifers!
Please, change the following names:

Abies koreana 'Silberlocke'
into
Abies koreana 'Horstmann's Silberlocke'

Cedrus atlantica 'Fastigiata'
into
Cedrus libani 'Fastigiata'

Cedrus atlantica 'Glauca Pendula'
into
Cedrus libani 'Glauca Pendula'

Cedrus atlantica 'Glauca'
into
Cedrus libani 'Glauca'

Chamaecyparis nootkatensis 'Glauca Pendula'
into
Cupressus nootkatensis 'Glauca Pendula'

Larix eurolepis 'Varied Directions'
into
Larix x marschlinsii 'Varied Directions'

Larix kaempferi 'Jacobsen's Pyramid'
into
Larix kaempferi 'Jakobsen's Pyramid'

Picea abies 'Rubra Spicata'
into
Picea abies 'Rubraspicata'

Picea bicolor 'Howell's Dwarf Tigertail'
into
Picea jezoensis 'Howell's Dwarf'

Pinus flexilis 'Cesarini Blue'
into
Pinus reflexa 'Cesarini Blue'

Pinus flexilis 'Vanderwolf's Pyramid'
into
Pinus reflexa 'Vanderwolf's Pyramid'

Pinus koraiensis 'Oculus Draconis'
into
Pinus koraiensis 'Dragon Eye'

Pinus leucodermis 'Compact Gem'
into
Pinus heldreichii 'Compact Gem'

Pinus thunbergii 'Koto buki'
into
Pinus thunbergii 'Kotobuki'

Jason, you better do the same thing to avoid future problems in conifer naming.
Thank you both in advance!

I would agree with some of the slight spelling changes. But as far as species changes, I can only make references in the description. I have no idea where you get the atlantica to libani conversion. And I still refuse to use the name heldreichii. I will mention it in the description. Where did the change come from leucodermis?

Jason, I don't know precise where the heldreichii naming is comming from.
The species experts/taxonomists changed this years ago.
While the species thing is not my kind of field, you've to ask Resin for his answer.

The same is for the Cedrus atlantica and Cedrus libani thing.
The specialists changed these names, I don't know why...

For me as a nurseryman it's not easy also with all these Taxon and species changes, I know this is very difficult to tell this to our customers.
For example: Chamaecyparis nootkatensis which was suddenly changed years ago into Xanthocyparis nootkatensis because they found a new species in Vietnam with a similar foliage.
Now they're comming back from this and the new taxon is Cupressus nootkatensis.
For a while they had also had Callitropsis in mind...
But for a collector it doesn't matter, it's very important to me that they have the last given name changes.
That's why I mentioned Cupressus nootkatensis 'Glauca Pendula'.
For now at my stocklist it's still Xanthocyparis nootkatensis.
Dutch nurseryman, garden centres and landscapers are just used to this change, they aren't waiting for another one...

I changed these names already at my stock lists and website years ago.
For the Pinus heldreichii I mentioned the following:
Pinus heldreichii (P. leucodermis) 'Satellit'.
In this way it should be clear for everybody.

I hope this helps you a bit...

I understand, but maybe we should have a 20 year rule. If the new name sticks for 20 years, then we can make the change. For now, I will keep with what has been widely accepted, and mention the other possible names in the written description.

Do you have any research papers you can site that document these new studies for species reclassifications?

Jason, you've to do what you think is best.
I'm very happy that you'll mention the other species names in the written descriptions.

Some info you're looking for could be found via Wikipedia.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pinus heldreichii

There you go. Useful information without being rude. Thank you. I will make the change to heldreichii and note leucodermis in the description. The seed is still imported from Bosnia as Pinus leucodermis. One of the main reasons I was reluctant to change the name based on some unknown persons opinion. But the info you showed had a valid point. Thanks again.

And I thought I purchased a lot from him a couple weeks ago... 13 lol. But with his and a few order from another company I'm up to about 40.

Will you be planting all of these or overwintering them? I got about 15 of mine planted, 10 will be over wintered and the other 15 I've decided to have the company hold them till March. Last week it was 60 and a great week to plant... this week the highs are in the 40's and wet.

Great choices by the way... make sure to give us a few individual pics once they are in the ground.

Will do, Edwin. Thanks for database help.

Planted all (as well as another 20 I was behind on getting in the ground) in nursery bed/yard today. Pines and larches will be on the far side of the pond, for the most part. The rest will be in mixed conifer border and assorted beds. All will be planted in hopefully-final spots this coming spring or next fall, at latest.

I also cooked the perfect chicken today. Beat that, chumps!

Is that a free-range or a feed-lot bird? I really eating them "hippy chickens."

LOL

Hi,
Edwin, this link can help you with the question where the name 'heldreichii' comes from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pine

especially this part:

The species was first described as Pinus heldreichii by the Swiss botanist K. Hermann Christ in honor of Theodor von Heldreich in 1863 from specimens collected on Mount Olympus, and then described a second time as P. leucodermis in 1864; the author of the second description (the Austrian botanist F. Antoine who found it on Orjen above the Bay of Kotor) being unaware of the slightly earlier publication by Christ.

That's going to be beautiful. What a pretty setting as well.