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| Can someone help me with this tree? Garden owner claimed that it is Picea rubens... I looked at the books, I did not think so. I have no experience with this Picea..... Are there any thoughts?
Ireena |
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- Posted by monkeytreeboy15 Zone 7b/8a (My Page) on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 13:39
| It looks like Picea glehnii... Resin will undoubtedly know. -Sam |
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| Looks more like Picea mariana, which matches well on the short, bicoloured foliage. The lack of cones is suspicious though - it is normally very prolofic at coning, as in the pic below. Another possibility, though unlikely due to rarity, is Picea glehnii. Picea mariana: Resin |
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| "It looks like Picea glehnii... Resin will undoubtedly know. -Sam "Appeared while I was still typing! |
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- Posted by Ireena.7 5b-6a (irena@dskalns.com) on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 13:46
| The first one that came to my mind too - glehnii ..... But I have not seen it "live" - only in pictures ...:) I will wait Resin thoughts... Very nice tree.... I like it shoots a lot. Like little fingers:) Ireena |
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- Posted by Ireena.7 5b-6a (irena@dskalns.com) on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 14:18
| This gardener has been on an expedition to the Sakhalin island ... 30-40 years ago. He is very old ... From Sakhalin he brought the seeds of Pinus pumila. This will be his selection - Pinus pumila 'Tonu'  That's why I thought glehnii .... Because he has brought a lot to his garden. Is he can remember exactly all:) There was no one cone... Ireena |
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- Posted by clement_2006 (My Page) on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 14:44
| Picea purpurea , Clement |
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- Posted by Ireena.7 5b-6a (irena@dskalns.com) on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 15:44
| Synonim is Picea likiangensis var. purpurea? But maybe it is Picea likiangensis var. rubescens? Ireena |
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- Posted by Ireena.7 5b-6a (irena@dskalns.com) on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 15:53
Picea likiangensis var. rubescens  Picea likiangensis var.purpurea Picea likiangensis var.purpurea Ireena |
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| If he's been to Sakhalin, then it's Picea glehnii - that's where it comes from. Lucky s*d! It's a very rare tree in cultivation in Europe, e.g. not more than a handful of collections in Britain have it (though the Kilmun Forest Plots in SW Scotland do have two small experimental plantations of it). PS Picea likiangensis var. purpurea is a synonym of Picea purpurea Resin |
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- Posted by clement_2006 (My Page) on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 16:49
| Yes, Picea purpurea listed in the past Picea likiangensis var purpurea. However you show Picea likiangensis var.purpurea but they look like Picea balfouriana (= Picea likiangensis var balfouriana in the past). Picea likiangensis var. rubescens = (Picea balfouriana = Picea likiangensis var balfouriana)showed here are Picea purpurea Clement |
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| Hi Clement - I think you're right with the last two pics being Picea balfouriana. But the first one (from www.cfh.ac.cn) is Picea balfouriana too, the cones are too long for Picea purpurea. Resin |
This post was edited by pineresin on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 16:54
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- Posted by Ireena.7 none (irena@dskalns.com) on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 17:08
| In the spring I will need to go to him again - for scions... Whether it is glehnii or likiangensis, it is beautiful ... Then again I can to make sure - what it is. Ireena |
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| I'm sorry I can't help id your plant, but I thought I would send one of a Picea likiangensis var. balfouriana we grow here. It was moved recently so looks slightly bedraggled but other than a slow growth rate does well for us. |
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- Posted by coniferjoy 10 (info@edwinsmitsconifers.com) on Fri, Nov 30, 12 at 10:54
| Mcpotts, your's is not a Picea balfouriana, it looks more like a Picea abies to me. This is a true Picea balfouriana |
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- Posted by clement_2006 (My Page) on Fri, Nov 30, 12 at 11:52
| Again, I confirm my first idea about the 3 first photos. Picea purpurea ! With the needles close to the twig. For Picea glehnii the needles are upturned :  Picea glehnii
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| Does seeing the cones confirm your thought that it is an abies? |
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| "Does seeing the cones confirm your thought that it is an abies?" Picea purpurea Resin |
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- Posted by Ireena.7 5b-6a (irena@dskalns.com) on Sat, Dec 1, 12 at 17:27
| Thank you, Clement and Resin! Indeed, I can clearly see the difference in your picture. It is not defined glehnii.... As much as I'd like:) I am just confused the Sakhalin ..... That he brought it from there. But probably there grew a purpurea too:) But I've learned a lot - I've look a huge amount of books:) Ireena |
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