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Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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Posted by twrosz Z3 Ab. (My Page) on Wed, Nov 18, 09 at 21:10
| No, not a spam posting ... but, rather a tall dark slender evergreen. I had been looking for something to line the driveway, I had considered Picea Pungens 'Blue Totem', though when I had seen 'Christina', I knew this was exactly what I wanted, loved the form and dark color! The owner of the nursery (Cannor Nursery) had told me that it had originated in British Columbia and is named in honor of their daughter. I think this one will become very popular, they seem to sell quickly at the nursery ... will be good to be seeing more of these in the landscape here and less Swedish aspen!
These are spaced at 3 meters apart
Picea abies 'Fastigiata Christina'
Terry |
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RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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| Nice! I take it birch and aspen do fairly well in your neck of the woods? :) |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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Nice Picea abies selection indeed!
But this new cultivar name given by the founder of this plant is iligitimate, the name 'Fastigiata' may not be involved because the it's a Latin name and given after 1959. Something else came trough my mind:
'Christina' is very much the same as 'Cupressina', I hope it's not a bad written tag which changed from an old cultivar name into a new one... |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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| I agree. A great looking plant and the dark green is stunning. Thanks for the photos. |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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| What automatically came to my mind when I saw the photos was 'Cupressina'. Never the less a great narrow offering with prominent dark green color. Spacing looks good. About 12" (30cm) per yr in growth once they acclimate. Dave |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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Good job picking them out & planting Terry.
Edwin certainly is right that 'Christina' is the name that should be associated. Interestingly, it does look the same as 'Cupressina'. Dax |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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| Who would carry this in the USA,I have tried several nurseries any suggestions? |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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There is already another pungens with the cultivar name 'Christina' derived from a witches' broom.
I believe the original is at the Bickelhaupt Arboretum |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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| I was thinking the same thing yesterday Stephen. Then again one is a big old blue globe and the other is green and narrow. Dax |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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| One is a Picea abies and the other a Picea pungens... |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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| Yes Edwin...you'd think these old hamsters would be a little bit more attentive in class! Still, winter is coming...probably too busy gathering cones etc. T. |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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I had looked at and considered abies 'Cupressina', they appeared to have thicker finer growth. I asked about hardiness in zone 3 ... was told they need a sheltered location. At another nursery, the lady said they no longer stock them due to heavy returns on winter damage.
'Cupressina' and 'Christian', are two definite different selections. 'Christina' close up ... 
basic ... I started here with a thick stand of virgin forest, had selected the land for its location, good soil (thank god!) and really nice conture, it's a bonus there's a lake across the road, love hearing the loons! ... and yes, the birch did help to clinch the deal. Poplar are the dominate species (weed trees), I've removed them from within the yard itself, banished to the boundaries. 
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RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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Edwin & tunilla,
As far as I am aware the same name cannot be used within the same genus, according to the cultivated code, so the first named 'Christina ' would be the legitimate name, the other would not. |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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Thanks Stephen for this info, I wasn't aware of this.
Can you show us were we can find this info of the cultivar code? |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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| I show you: Scroll mid-way down to 1. (b) "Avoid epithets that might resemble terms used in the market-place. (ICNCP Rec. 19C.1)" Dax |
Here is a link that might be useful: ICRA How to name a new cultivar
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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| Thanks folks, I knew it was bound to be complicated . Is there another word for 'fastigiate'?. 'Cause that's the word in the name wich gives a clue to the overall shape of the plant; in fact ,I think it's the useful part of that cv's name. They could call it 'Lean Christine'... could make a nice duo with 'Fat Albert',another self-explanatory name second to none. T. BTW I notice there is a Pinus strobus 'Wintergold'. Bad news for the mugo with the same name, or is it the other way round? |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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| The strobus is 'Hillside Wintergold' and the mugo 'Winter Gold'. At the end of the day you can name a plant whatever you like, the problem would only arise if you tried to officially register a plant. having said that, the cultivated code is there for a reason and the guidelines should really be followed if we do not want to see added confusion in the naming of plants. |
RE: Oh, Christina ... picea abies
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Thanks Dax for this info.
I don't have a lack of fantasy with naming my new conifers so each name is unique ;0) About the 'Winter Gold' conifers:
Several conifers are named with this cultivarname:
As mentioned:
-Pinus strobus 'Hillside Wintergold' aka 'Helen'
-Pinus mugo 'Winter Gold' Also Pinus mugo 'Carstens Wintergold' in the past, but it was to much confusion with the 'Winter Gold' so now it's only Pinus mugo 'Carstens'. There's also a Dutch Taxus baccata seedling selection with the name 'Wintergold'. |
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