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Pinus strobus cross pollinating a p. parviflora

mrgpag SW OH Z5/6
10 years ago

What's the chances of this happening and if so - will the results be desirable? Could be in the eyes of the beholder Maybe? I have a number of seedlings under a p. parviflora and it is about 30 feet downwind from a p. strobus. The p.strobus has never coned - probably because I shear it every year when the candles approach mid growth.

Marshall

Comments (12)

  • monkeytreeboy15
    10 years ago

    Marshall, I think a cross between those two species might be very exciting!
    Have you seen pollen cones on your Pinus strobus before? If it doesn't produce seed cones, then maybe it isn't donating pollen, either..

    -Sam

  • mrgpag SW OH Z5/6
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Sam - There are usually a few pollen buds opening when I shear and I remember them emitting pollen when disturbed.

    Marshall

  • bluecone
    10 years ago

    It's possible that the species have slightly different pollination times, so if you want to maximize your chances of getting a hybrid, you should store the pollen from one species and manually pollinate the other species. You should also ensure that the recipient immature female cone has a "chastity bag" preventing pollen you don't want from touching it. If the prevention works 100%, then you can get an estimate of sexual compatibility between the species by counting number of sterile vs viable seeds, germination rate, etc.

    Here is a great video showing how they cross-pollinate Southeastern US pines, subsection australes (loblolly, longleaf, shortleaf, slash, etc). The principle is the same for any conifer:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq39gEDDKDs

    Here is a link that might be useful: Manual cross-pollination of pines

  • pineresin
    10 years ago

    The cross has already been made, it's called Pinus ÃÂ hunnewellii.

    Resin

    Edit: add link to pics

    Here is a link that might be useful: Pics

    This post was edited by pineresin on Mon, Dec 9, 13 at 21:04

  • mrgpag SW OH Z5/6
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thanks for the replies -- which make me wonder if the p. x hunnewellii is/was a natural occurring cross or a manufactured one using techniques that Bluecone commented on?
    Anyway, I dug and potted the seedlings and will have the horticulturist at the arboretum where I volunteer plant them out somewhere in a couple years and we'll see what happens with them.

    Marshall

  • pineresin
    10 years ago

    It was a spontaneous hybrid, seedling found at the Hunnewell Arboretum.

    Resin

  • mrgpag SW OH Z5/6
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thanks Resin
    So there's a chance
    Marshall

  • garcanad
    10 years ago

    Are there any identifiable characteristics of such a cross or is it only possible by seed cones and expert eyes?
    I have some Pinus parviflora spread around the garden for more than 20 years and a native Pinus strobus forest next to us. There are many self-sown seedlings appearing everywhere in the garden. Just in case...

  • pineresin
    10 years ago

    A fair chance of it being distinguishable by 3-4 years old; the foliage is intermediate between the two parents.

    Resin

  • clement_2006
    10 years ago


    Pinus x hunnewellii, it's just a good exemple between the parents,in form, in foliage, in cones. Here the cones photografied in my arboretum.
    Clement

  • garcanad
    10 years ago

    Thanks Resin and Clement. I will try to keep some of those seedlings and keep an eye on them. Clement, I hope you don't mind I saved a copy of each of your images for future reference.

  • basic
    10 years ago

    There's a few nice specimens of this cross at the Minnesota Landscape Arb. The best are very glaucus, approaching the bluest of Japanese White Pine. I planted a P. parviflora 'Negishi' near a large native White Pine, with this area surrounded by an open woodland. This is perfect for seedlings to pop up and I'm hoping to get lucky. :)

    This post was edited by basic on Mon, Dec 16, 13 at 20:24

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