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Abies veitchii f. olivacea

Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on
Fri, Dec 2, 11 at 8:20

just to prove i do make changes to the dB ...

bought as: Abies veitchii 'Olivaceae'

changed to, based on youse guys: Abies veitchii f. olivacea

of course.. they will now tell me there has been another nomenclature name change.. lol ...

that is not a secondary leader.. its just an optical illusion ...

looks like it is finally settling in and getting established.. note the leader growth rate ...


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RE: Abies veitchii f. olivacea

  • Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
    Fri, Dec 2, 11 at 14:50

Wow, is that leader 2'?

You have some neat cultivars you're pulling out of the hat.

Keep em' coming. I'm enjoying them and I'm sure others are as well.

RE: Abies veitchii f. olivacea

Ken, that is a gorgeous Abies veitchii 'Olivaceae'. It really is putting out some quick growth eh? Very very nice.

RE: Abies veitchii f. olivacea

That's extremely odd. I'm sure you'd be qualified to recognize this, but it sure looks like a rootstock that is zooming past a scion.
What is the point of this cultivar?

RE: Abies veitchii f. olivacea

Looks to me like a grafted side shoot that is starting to develop apical dominance - it should get more symmetrical over the next year or two.

The only difference from typical Abies veitchii is that the immature cones are green, not purple.


RE: Abies veitchii f. olivacea

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Fri, Dec 2, 11 at 20:06

Yes, a botanical forma rather than a cultivated variety (cultivar, for short).

Except that in this particular instance it may be that in cultivation a clone or small number of clones have been produced by grafting. Which means a de facto cultivar has been produced - a cultivar name should be raised to differentiate this stock from the rest of f. olivacea.

The "aceae" ending is used for family names only, so there would never be a proper cultivar name with that ending.

RE: Abies veitchii f. olivacea

david .... just for you .. i walked out... at night.. 27 degrees.. and a blistering wind....

its an optical delusion....

its all above the graft ... the white is under.. but being on the hill... we see some from below.. and some from the top ... creating the delusion .. lol ...

as for the rest of you .. i said: that is not a secondary leader.. its just an optical illusion ...

its most likely.. the first lateral.. oh so many years ago... doing something weird.. due to the hill ... both camera angle.. and weird growth ..


RE: name it

maybe someone should name one.. 'Olive Oyl"



RE: Abies veitchii f. olivacea

Olivacea are the colour of olive,witch are the colour of the cone.It's just a variety,with a green cone not a cultivar.

RE: Abies veitchii f. olivacea

one thing for sure... its going to be much larger than i thought.. way back when.. when i planted to too close to the rest ....

at the link.. its the small one.. right above the day lily .. in front of aurea.. and to the right of otto ...

duh ... i can put the pic right here... some times i wonder about you all .. lol.. but most of the time i am wondering what i am thinking.. lol ...ken

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