Cloudmountainfarm.com says 8-10 feet in 10 years.

I'm getting one, but I wonder if I should have gotten "epstein" instead because it's supposed to be smaller.

Is the consensus that these, in a very long time, get about as big as the species or should they mature around 1/4th the height (becuase they grow about 1/4th as fast) or does anyone really know?

That's hardly any slower than the wild plants (certainly far more than a quarter!).

There isn't really any useful correlation between growth rate and ultimate size in the long term; a slow grower may still get huge, but just takes longer to get there.

The current maximum known height for living Cedrus libani var. brevifolia is about 24m, but Pliny (Nat. Hist. XVI: LXXVI) mentioned a cedar on Cyprus 40m tall, before most of the population was destroyed by overcutting. That makes it the same potential size as C. libani vars. atlantica, libani and stenocoma, all of which can reach 40m.

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One photo being used for 'Treveron' on more than one web page shows an open-looking specimen, quite orthodox, if not more vigorous and diffuse than typical. Along with same image same description of habit/vigor as "intermediate" being shared. Probably habit discrepancy is another case of a slow or compact seedling variant taking off and opening up when grafted onto seedling rootstocks. This is a not an unusual problem with the production of dwarf and slow growing conifers.

I had the digital camera out so I thought I'd follow up on this in case someone else is interested in this cultivar in the future.

I bought this early this winter in a one gallon can from proterhowse. The plant was staked, and the small most vertical shoot was tied to the stake. Maybe that's why this particular plant has an irregular habit. I'm resising the urge to prune and restake it, and just letting it do it's own thing for a year, maybe indefintely. Any thoughts? It's a beautiful plant. So take that zone 5! :)

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