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| Well, yes, I'm finally here!! Another rainy Sunday morning - what can I say, I love the ssssssss sound the car tires make going by. Also good that it is cooler, as I plan to make chili sauce today.
The 20th century saw two 'world' wars and many firsts. Prior to World War II, a furious search for what became usable radar was carried out in 8 nations. The need for secrecy was paramount for this, and for all other prewar and war-time projects. For this purpose, Germany adopted the use of an Enigma machine, which had been designed by a Dutchman, Hugo Koch, in 1919. They adapted this machine, and considered it unbreakable. They were wrong. Beginning in Poland in the 30's, then Britain and finally the US, men and women laboured tirelessly to break the code. In the progress of this work, another first, something far more important to the 20th century, and the 21st century, was created. What was it?
Nancy. |
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- Posted by aftermidnight Z8 V. Island B.C. (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 11:00
| Nancy, the only thing that's drifting through the old grey matter involved an actress, a pretty smart cookie. I'm probably way off course tho LOL. I need clues.... Annette |
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| Hmmmm. I know that a lot of very smart people, some of them mathematicians, worked at Bletchley Park in England to break the Enigma code, but that doesn't exactly give me the answer to the question. I have a feeling that the answer might involve something that would have been, and still is, useful for deciphering codes or other complex patterns. Did John Von Neumann work on the project? I'll think some more ... TM |
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| Hmmm...actress doesn't ring any bells for me. I have read a lot about the Enigma machines and saw a film, but will wait for clues or ask Chuck when he gets home. I am turning into a hanger-on since he seems to know way more answers than I! Cynthia |
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- Posted by midnightsmum 4b ON (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 12:42
| Annette - I haven't seen any actresses in my research - doesn't mean she's not there, though!! Cyn - let me know what Chuck thinks. TM, John Von Neumann was more involved in Quantum mechcanics and nuclear technology - he was involved in the Manhattan Project.... Does the term bombe, or bomba mean anything to anyone?? I do have another name, but it may be a gimmee to TM, so will hold my cards close to my chest a little longer!! Yes, there is a clue in there. Nancy. |
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- Posted by lorna-organic (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 12:53
| The only Hollywood hint I can come up with is "Warning! Warning! That does not compute." |
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- Posted by aftermidnight Z8 V. Island B.C. (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 13:12
| I must have hit the wrong button so here goes again. I haven't the faintest what the answer is. What I said had nothing to do with the Enigma Machine LOL. The actress, Heddy Lamarr was a pretty smart cookie, who would have thunk. Me thinks I'm skunked on this one :(. Annette |
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- Posted by midnightsmum 4b ON (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 13:46
| Good one, Lorna!! You are a smart cookie, too. Nancy. |
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- Posted by midnightsmum 4b ON (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 14:04
| Interesting connection, Annette!!! She did do some very interesting work, post-war. Used by the US Navy in 1962, also recently by Wi-LAN, a local hi-tech company. Not sure what else to say!!! Nancy. |
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- Posted by aftermidnight Z8 V. Island B.C. (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 14:20
| Hey Lorna, guess what I'm making this afternoon, your recipe for Cape Breton Scones, YUM. Annette |
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| Lorna, that is exactly what Chuck thought! Good clue. He thought of Alan Turing... |
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| Now, if only I could figure out a connection with scones...lol Cynthia |
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- Posted by midnightsmum 4b ON (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 18:43
| Sorry to abandon you all - I just spent 4 1/2 hours on Skype with my AZ cousin, going through genealogy sites and transcriptions of hometown cemeteries - fun, really!! Alan Turing, indeed - he was the name I was going to drop. I may need hint for the scones clue!! lol. Nancy. |
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| I'll be sticking with my first thought. |
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- Posted by midnightsmum 4b ON (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 19:18
| ...and that was?? Not John Von Neumann, right?? Nancy. |
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- Posted by lorna-organic (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 19:50
| Off topic: Annette, I hope you enjoy the scones. I made a batch last week. I used almost a whole jar of marmalade--slathered on the scones. Another hint for the game...it is as plain on the nose on your face, right before your eyes. :-) |
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| Yes, right before your eyes and at your fingertips. |
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| That was ... something that would have been, and still is, useful for deciphering codes or other complex patterns. Too vague? You're looking for a thing that was created, not a person, right? |
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- Posted by aftermidnight Z8 V. Island B.C. (My Page) on Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 20:02
| Hmmmmm, Something to do with a computer? Lorna's scones, I just had to share LOL.
Annette |
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| Annette, I'd give you TEN stars just for the scones-yum! They look delicious, much better than the whole wheat toast I had this am.! |
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- Posted by lorna-organic (My Page) on Mon, Aug 22, 11 at 11:58
| Yes, those scones look wonderful! |
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- Posted by midnightsmum 4b ON (My Page) on Mon, Aug 22, 11 at 12:08
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- Posted by lorna-organic (My Page) on Mon, Aug 22, 11 at 12:55
| Along the war theme, may I suggest trivia about American code talkers would be appropriate? Few Americans have any idea about the scope of the patriotism amongst Native Americans during the World Wars. The movie "Wind Talkers" has caused many people to have erroneous beliefs. |
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- Posted by midnightsmum 4b ON (My Page) on Mon, Aug 22, 11 at 13:24
| I agree Lorna - one of my supervisors at work is Mohawk. He has mentioned this to me, as well. Wind Talkers was one movie I didn't finish watching - sorry, I know a lot of people love Nicholas Cage - me, not so much. In Canada, as well, they fought in a much larger percentage than any other group. I fundraise for a charity that collects stories from veterans, and I spoke to a Chinese-Canadian who was talking about a reserve in British Columbia that had a very high percentage of volunteers. I'm going to look up that real story, Lorna. Nancy. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Aboriginal Canadians in the Second World War
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| Interesting story, Nancy. Thanks for researching it and dishing it out for us. I'm always interested in almost anything about WWII. TM |
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- Posted by lorna-organic (My Page) on Mon, Aug 22, 11 at 14:05
| Actually, Nancy, the end of "Wind Talkers" was very touching. I did like the movie, but I was shocked that people thought it was the whole story. It is only a fragment of the whole story. It was the same in the US during WWII, in terms of percentage, more Native Americans joined the armed forces than any other ethnic group in the US. You have to look up a few different articles on code talkers to get the scope. Some are not well written, and others have bias toward a particular tribe or nation. |
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- Posted by midnightsmum 4b ON (My Page) on Mon, Aug 22, 11 at 19:13
| Lorna - I guess I need to go back and see Wind Talkers again.... TM - seriously, did you already know, or did the initial post tell the tale? I am curious. Thanks, Nancy. |
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| There are a lot of details about the Bletchley Park operations that I forgot or never knew, like the word bombe. I guessed that the question had something to do with computers, because I knew that this was about the time that computers were being developed. When Cynthia brought up Alan Turing, I was pretty sure I was barking up the right tree. TM |
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- Posted by midnightsmum 4b ON (My Page) on Tue, Aug 23, 11 at 19:52
| Thanks - the whole Bletchley Park thing is fascinating - I may milk it some more, one day!! I was pretty sure that Alan Turing would be a gimme for you. Nancy. |
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| I was so busy that I forgot to play last week and I actually knew this one. I've read and seen videos about Bletchley Park and my daughter in law visted there several years ago. |
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