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Fine Gardening Magazine.....grrrrrr

Posted by jackied164 z6 MA (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 5, 07 at 20:15

First I should say this is not my favorite gardening magazine but I bought it at the airport.

So there is this article about a contemporary garden designer. His gardens were very nice...would not work in my yard - but I get them. In explaining his design theories he says that he thinks of his gardens like Picasso paintings - clean, bold, direct - which he contrasted to paintings by Thomas Kinkade (master of light...ewwww) and presumably to gardens that might be called cottage gardens. I guess I like to think that I am creating a cottage garden in my yard - free form, more emphasis on plants than design, some creeping things, some things allowed to flop...a big heavenly mess (by Picasso standards).

I really am trying to make my peace with this but I guess I kind of think he is right. At least I think my garden IS kind of like a Thomas Kinkade painting. I do try to keep the precious levels on the low side though.

I apologize for offending Thomas Kinkade fans but did anyone else see this article?


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RE: Fine Gardening Magazine.....grrrrrr

While I appreciate Picasso, I wouldn't necessarily want to put a three-eyed, two-nosed fountain in my garden. That's just me.

I haven't read the article, but it sounds as though this author is generalizing to extremes. Claude Monet was influenced by what we think of as cottage design. That is to say, floriferous. I would like to see him attempt to disparage Claude Monet and still sound like an authority figure.

He seems to be using Kinkade to achieve an air of sophisticated snobbery, and I hate that. I'm sure his gardens are beautiful and his designs flawless. But to dismiss cottage gardening like that lacked grace. And there are worse things to look at than a Kinkade "snowy lane with bright lantern on corner". Those big-eyed children painted by Keane. Those just freaked me out.

If you want to grow a cottage garden, grow a cottage garden.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so behold your own beauty.

Steven

Here is a link that might be useful: Keane Eyes


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Recently subscribed to Fine Gardening, it's supposed to be a classy magazine but I hate snobbery of any kind. Great answer Steven. vb


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Perhaps what he meant by Kincade was something trite and fussy. Maybe he even likes cottage gardens, but I must admit it does sound snobby.


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Jackie, I wonder which stage of Picasso's art the author was talking about? The Blue, Cubist, Synthetic Cubisim, the Neoclassical, or the years he was influenced from Matisse? (some suggest the correct word is "Stole", but since I'm not an art historian I don't have a dog in that fight) I'm sure I've forgotten a couple of styles, but my point is that Picasso was always changing, adapting, and willing to try something new, not unlike the best gardeners. :^)

Steven, did you see Puss in Boots from the animated film Shrek? Great spoof of those pathetic Keane kitties...


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The Kinkade "paintings" are bit too much for me, but I've always thought that I would love to be in a real Kinkade "garden" like the ones he paints!

Be true to yourself, if you love the cottage style, do it.


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gottagarden - your gardens look BETTER than the Kinkade gardens....

I liked Thomas Kinkade better when he painted in the l980s (impressionistic) under another name - "girrard" - not too many people know that Thomas Kinkade painted under that name - I have about six of those paintings and they are beautiful and of course, being impressionistic, true life.

Carrie


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What a total snob! Picasso, huh?
I tend to be a bit of a private snob myself, since I am an art historian (sniff). However, I would like to point out to that designer that gardens are not paintings. The purpose of my garden is to restore the soul, not to increase my feelings of alienation in a mechanized world.
Renee


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Oh dear, I guess I'm just not with it. I love Thomas kinkade.

Annette


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Carrie, I know what you mean; Kinkade may be the "painter of light", but he is not the "painter of textures". I think the best gardens are not hazy, fuzzy clouds of greenery with little polka dots of color, they're a rich mixing of shapes and textures, both from the flowers and the foilage. JMHO.


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Aftermidnight - I think he's a wonderful artist, i just liked him better under the name "girrard"... but he is very talented either way.

Carrie


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What issue of Fine Gardening was this article in? I went all thru the current issue--I'm a subscriber--and couldn't find this article.


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Once, on this forum, a poster said my garden looked like a
Thomas Kinkade painting. I'm hoping it was meant as a compliment. I'm in the Kan't Stand Kinkade Kamp but 'to each his own'. Maybe the garden designer should learn that.

Libby


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Hosenemesis, that was so perfectly-put! I don't think Picasso ever meant a painting to be peaceful or restful, (although I'm _not_ an art historian). I wonder how many Guernica gardens that designer has planted?

I liked the first couple of Kincade paintings I saw, until I saw that the paintings are too similar to one another for my taste. They're pretty, but geez--that saturated amber light, at any and every time of day! But their intent is definitely to soothe and bring peace and enjoyment, which is mostly what I want out of my gardens.

Bold slashes of color and energy in a garden are neat, too, but I wouldn't claim that they were Picasso-inspired. The designer called Picasso stuff "clean, bold and neat"???? Most of his work (not that I've seen everything) is smeary, jagged and with sketch-like lines. Maybe the designer meant Mondrian???

I imagine that designer finds that he can get rich customers to sign on if he finds a way to relate gardens to high art. His pretensions attract pretentious customers, and there's probably more money in that. Or, if he can convince people that the look they like (something like Kincade) is stupid and will be made fun of, they might hire him instead of of someone else, or planning their own gardens.


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One of the perils of being famous is that more people come out against you. It becomes "hip" to be anti(insert famous person/thing here).
Personally, I'm rather fond of Kinkades work. His paintings have a very romantic/nostalgic air about them, and I like the feelings I get when I look at them. Simple as that. If someone said my garden looked like a Kinkade painting I would be flattered. The only thing that bugs me is that he has every single flower blooming at the same time in all his paintings, regardless of time of year. I understand the effect he's going for, though, so it is a minor quibble.
Picasso, on the other hand, does nothing for me. ugh.
I Agree with Steven in regards to Monet. Now THAT is what I would hope to have my cottage garden compared to.
The few issues I've seen of Fine Gardening Magazine I have liked. My real favorite is The English Garden. Love that magazine.


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Is Kinkade really a painter of anything now? I thought his "originals" were now mass produced by other "painters of light" (employed by him) who copy his technique ... or did I just dream that up?


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Here's an interesting link which pertains to my above post

It's interesting that they spell Girard/Girrard - two different ways... (weird, I'd say)

I don't know how to post a link, so I copied it and pasted

http://www.gallerydirectart.com/t-310.html

Carrie


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http://www.avkinkade.com/ShopOnline_RobertGirrard1.html

This is a better link to information about his use of another name.


 
 

 

 


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