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Would some of you help me pare this seed list down?

phylrae
16 years ago

Hi everyone,

I haven't posted here very much, so most of you probably don't "know" me. :0)

I am a small "grower", in the sense that I just sell bouquets locally, to co-workers, & other people I meet, etc. I have done bouquets for graduation parties, retirement parties, rehearsal dinners, bridal showers, teacher gifts, etc. It has been mostly word of mouth w/business cards my daughter made me a few years ago. My "business" has grown somewhat each year, but I don't grow for farmer's markets as many of you do. Still, I enjoy it immensely, and my husband and kids are very proud of me too!

Anyway, we have about 70 rose bushes, a hundred or more different asiatic, trumpet, OT, oriental & species lilies, several spuria and siberian irises. We also have interesting daffodils, some (not many) tulips, peonies, lupine, echinaceas, baptisia australis, daisies, dicentras,

monarda, japanese ferns, kniphofia, etc.

I was wondering if it would be ok with all of you if I listed the seeds I have collected (thru trades on GW and commercial seeds), and asked you to "critique" it/help me pare it down maybe 50% (to the best kinds/least difficult cultivars for a zone 5a garden!)

I DO NOT have a hoophouse or anything...it's all growing in my front, side and back yards! I have been winter-sowing as much as I can, with mixed results.

I will wait for your "go-ahead" before I list them all, because I don't want to overwhelm you.

Thanks so much!

:0) Phyl

Comments (6)

  • pitt
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Phyl: What a wonderful array of perennials! I would love to see your listing of seeds. Pitt from Indiana Z5

  • phylrae
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks so much for your warm welcoming attitude, Pitt. I just didn't want to post too much. I have a tendency to want to grow EVERYTHING that is gorgeous and interesting to ME, and very often customers want to know what "this" flower is and "that" flower is, never knowing it existed!


    There are some here that are OBVIOUSLY not suitable for cutting (stem length-alyssum/hollyhock/morning glory, too "wild & rangy"-like ratibida, not long enough lasting-papaver?, or just not worth it in a zone with a short growing season like mine) but if something here "seems" unable to be cut, but YOU KNOW CAN be cut for SHORT bouquets, please inform me! I don't have that much more room in my yard, so I really need to pare this list down!

    Also, if any of these are much better GROWING FROM AN ESTABLISHED PLANT, instead of by my starting from seed, would you mind letting me know? PS-I don't have any phlox yet! :0)

    Agastache foeniculum Lavender Hyssop
    Agastache Tutti frutti
    Agastache rupestris
    Alcea Dwarf Hollyhock Majorette Mix
    Alcea Hollyhock Old Farmyard Mix
    Alcea rosea Nigra-singles
    Alcea rosea (hot pink hollyhock)
    Alcea rosea (single pink,dk.pk.throat)
    Alyssum Royal Carpet
    Amaranthus Intense Purple-tall
    Ammi majus
    Antirrhinum Gumdrop Mix
    Antirrhinum Large snap mix
    Antirrhinum Tetra Mix
    Aquilegia (pink)
    Aquilegia (yellow)
    Aquilegia Bonnets (pinks)
    Aquilegia Mrs. Scott Ellis
    Aquilegia Ruby Port
    Aquilegia Wm. Guinness
    Asclepias incarnata
    Balsam Double Camellia Mix
    Basilicum (Cinnamon/Mexican Basil Mix)
    Bellis perennis (English daisy-pink)
    Berkheya purpurea Zulu Warrior
    Buddleia Honeycomb
    Calendula Citrus Cocktail
    Calendula Fancy Mix
    Calendula Kablouna Dore
    Calendula Kablouna Gold
    Calendula Pacific Beauty
    Calendula Porcupine
    Calendula Radio
    Calendula Sunny Girl Double
    Calendula Touch of Red
    Callistephus chinensis (Aster Crego mix)
    Callistephus chinensis Orange Sherbet
    Callistephus chinensis Powderpuff Mix
    Callistephus chinensis Seastar Mix
    Campanula persicifolia (Peachleaf Bellflower/blue)
    Campsis radicans (yellow/apr.trumpet vines)
    Canterbury Bells mix
    Cardinal Vine
    Celosia Burgundy Supercrest
    Celosia spicata
    Centaurea cyanus Mix (Bachelor's Buttons)
    Centaurea cyanus Blue Boy
    Centaurea cyanus Persian cornflower (pink)
    Centaurea Cornflower "Black Ball"
    Centaurea Double Mixed batchelor buttons
    Centaurea imperialis Sweet Sultan
    Centaurea Montana/mountain bluet
    Chives (Herb)
    Chrysanthemum carinatum (Love, but JBs devour these!)
    Chrysanthemum coccineum/Perennial Painted Daisy
    Chrysanthemum Coconut Ice
    Cleome Four Queens Mix
    Cleome Rose Queen
    Coleus Rainbow Mix
    Collinsia heterophylla (Chinese Houses)
    Consolida Giant Imperial Mix Larkspur
    Consolida Shades of Blue
    Consolida Larkspur Kaleidoscope Mix
    Consolida Larkspur Sublime Bicolor
    Convolvulus(Bush-type morning glory) Blue Enchantment
    Cosmos Double Click
    Cosmos Seashells Mix
    Cosmos Single Sensation Mixed Colors
    Cosmos sulphureus Orange
    Cosmos Sunset (orange/red)
    Crocosmia/montbretia
    Cynoglossum Mystery Rose
    Dahlia Rainbow Mix
    Dahlia Unwins Mix
    Datura (large, white)
    Delphinium Astolat
    Delphinium Blue Mirror
    Delphinium King Arthur
    Delphinium Magic Fountains Mixed Colors (Dwarf)
    Dianthus barbatus (Sweet William single mix)
    Dianthus Chabaud Great Carnation Mix
    **POSSIBLY Dianthus AMAZON purple coming (from a trade!!)**
    Dicentra eximia (Fernleaf bleeding heart)
    Dierama (Angel's Fishing Rod)
    Digitalis alba
    Digitalis Camelot lavender
    Digitalis Candy Mountain
    Digitalis Excelsior Hybrids mixed colors
    Digitalis purpurea Foxy mix
    Dill (Organic), Bouquet
    Echinacea pallida
    Echinacea paradoxa
    Echinacea tennesseensis
    Echinacea White Swan
    Echinops ritro
    Erygium (blue)
    Erysimum allionii (Wallflower-yellow/orange)
    Eucalyptus Mix
    Eupatorium (Joe Pye Weed)
    French honeysuckle/scarlet (climber/scrambler)
    Fritillaria langeolata
    Fritillaria meleagris (Snakeshead/Checkered fritillary)
    Gaillardia Aristata (Blanketflower)
    Gaillardia Burgundy
    Gaillardia Fanfare P *may not come true
    Gaillardia Summer's Kiss
    Gaillardia Sundance Bicolor
    Gaillardia Yellow Sun
    Gaura Siskiyou Pink
    Gazania Sunset Colors
    Gazania (white)
    Gazania (white/purple stripe)
    Geranium (Frost-Hardy mix)
    Geranium pratense Splish Splash cranesbill
    Gomphrena QIS mix
    Gypsophilia elegans (pink)
    Gypsophilia paniculata Early Snowball (white dbl.)
    Gypsophilia (white baby's breath)
    Helenium (red, I believe)
    Helenium Bright Buttons
    Helenium Mardigras
    Helenium Moerheim Beauty
    Helenium Red Army
    Helianthus Double Quick Orange
    Helianthus Honey Bear
    Helianthus Infrared
    Helianthus Lemon Aura
    Helianthus Lemon Queen
    Helianthus Mammoth Russian
    Helianthus Monet's Palette
    Helianthus Moulin Rouge
    Helianthus Parasol Mix
    Helianthus Pro Cut Lemon
    Helianthus Pro Cut Orange
    Helianthus Ring of Fire
    Helianthus Sole Doro
    Helianthus Sundance Kid
    Helianthus Teddy Bear
    Helichrysum Strawflower Dwarf Mix
    Helichrysum Tall Double Mix
    Heliopsis scabra Summer Sun
    Hemerocallus "Pink"
    Hemerocallus/various crosses
    Hesperis matronalis (Dame's Rocket)
    Hibiscus mosch.:Disco Belle/S.Belle mix
    Iberis Dwarf Fairy (Candytuft)
    Ipomea Heavenly Blue Morning Glory
    Ipomea Choice Mixed Colors Morning Glory
    Ipomea Crimson Rambler Morning Glory
    Ipomea Sunrise Serenade Morning Glory
    Iris (Spuria)
    Lagurus ovatus (Bunny Tail Grass)
    Lathyrus Bijou Mix
    Lathyrus odoratus Spencer Mix
    Lathyrus odoratus Old Spice Mix
    Lathyrus Sweet Pea Burpee Patio Mix (bush type)
    Leonotus leonurus
    Leucanthemum Aglaia Shasta Daisy
    Leucanthemum Alaska Shasta Daisy
    Leucanthemum Crazy Daisy (*already have this growing)
    Leucanthemum Silver Princess Daisy (same as above)
    Leucanthemum Snow Lady Daisy
    Leucanthemum Wirral Pride
    Lilium Orienpet Mix
    Lilium philippenense (white)
    Linum rubrum (Scarlet Flax)
    Lobelia cardinalis
    Lupinus Russell's Hybrid Mix
    Lychnis chalcedonica (Maltese Cross)
    Lychnis coronaria (Rose Campion)
    Malope trifida (Mallow Vulcan)
    Malva sylvestrus Zebrina
    Melissa officinalis (Lemon Balm)
    Mina Lobata - Spanish Flag
    Moluccella Laevis (Bells of Ireland)
    Monarda citriodora
    Monarda lambada
    Monarda Panorama Mix
    Myosotis sylvatica Firmament Forget-Me-Nots
    Narcissi (no description)
    Nasturtium Scarlet Gleam Improved
    Nigella hispanica Exotica (Love-in-a-Mist)
    Nigella "Jewels" (Love-in-a-Mist)
    Orlaya grandiflora
    Papaver coral w/purple center
    Papaver Danish Flag
    Papaver Drama Queen
    Papaver orientale mix (white, salmon, reds)
    Papaver rhoeas
    Papaver Shirley Mix (Double)
    Papaver somniferum Black Peony Poppy
    Papaver somniferum/Hot pink w/dk. ctr,fringed
    Pardancanda norrissi-purples(have a y/o one growing already)
    Passiflora Maypop
    Penstemon Red Rocks
    Polygonum orientalis(Kiss Me Over The Garden Gate)
    Platycodon Balloon Flower
    Platycodon Fuji Blue
    Platycodon Axminster Streaked
    Ratibida columnifera (Mexican Hat)
    Rose Campion
    Rudbeckia hirta Cherokee Sunset
    Rudbeckia hirta Gloriosa Daisy Mix
    Rudbeckia hirta Double Gold
    Rudbeckia Green Wizard
    Rudbeckia hirta Irish Eyes
    Rudbeckia hirta Prairie Sun
    Rudbeckia Sonora (*possibly-not sure)
    Rudbeckia Toto
    Salvia Bonfire
    Scabiosa atropurpurea (deep red, frosted white)
    Scabiosa Mix
    Scabiosa (yellow)
    Statice Mixed
    Tabebuia (yellow)
    Tagetes (Marigold) Crackerjack Mixed
    Tagetes (Marigold) Harlequin
    Tagetes (Marigold) Petite Yellow
    Tagetes (Marigold) Simba
    Tagetes (Marigold) Snowdrift
    Tagetes (Marigold) Sweet Cream
    Tagetes (Marigold) Tiger Eyes
    Talinum paniculata (Jewels of Opar)
    Tanacetum coccineum/Painted Daisies (pk/red)
    Tecoma San Alata (orange honeysuckle)
    Verbena bonariensis (Purpletop verbena)
    Viola Tricolor "Miss Helen Mount"/Johnny Jump-Up
    Zinnia Candy Cane Mix
    Zinnia Elegans California Giant
    Zinnia Giant Cactus Mix
    Zinnia Giant Enchantress
    Zinnia Giant Violet Queen
    Zinnia Old Mexico
    Zinnia Paintbrush Mixed Colors
    Zinnia Persian Carpet
    Zinnia Red Spider
    Zinnia Royal Purple
    Zinnia Scabiosa Pastel Mix
    Zinnia Scarlet King
    Zinnia State Fair Mix
    Zinnia Whirligig
    Zinnia Zowie! Flame
    Perennial Wildflower Mix
    Daisy Garden Wildflower Mix

    After all of this, I hope that you are still my "friends" (wink).
    :0) Phyl

  • bryan_ut
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    50% ??

    How about down to 10%. If you did all those you would need 5 FMs, unless you just have a few of each. You could plant it all and see what comes up.

    My picks would be.

    Amaranthus Intense Purple-tall
    Ammi majus
    Antirrhinum Large snap mix
    Asclepias incarnata
    Buddleia Honeycomb
    Calendula Pacific Beauty
    Canterbury Bells mix
    Celosia Burgundy Supercrest
    Centaurea Montana/mountain bluet
    Consolida Giant Imperial Mix Larkspur
    Consolida Larkspur Sublime Bicolor
    Cosmos Double Click
    Cosmos Seashells Mix
    Cosmos Single Sensation Mixed Colors
    Dahlia Rainbow Mix
    Dahlia Unwins Mix
    Delphinium Astolat
    Delphinium Blue Mirror
    Delphinium King Arthur
    Delphinium Magic Fountains Mixed Colors (Dwarf)
    Dianthus barbatus (Sweet William single mix)
    Dianthus AMAZON purple coming (
    Digitalis purpurea Foxy mix
    Echinacea pallida
    Echinacea tennesseensis
    Echinacea White Swan
    Echinops ritro
    French honeysuckle/scarlet (climber/scrambler)
    Gomphrena QIS mix
    Helianthus Double Quick Orange
    Helianthus Honey Bear
    Helianthus Infrared
    Helianthus Lemon Aura
    Helianthus Lemon Queen
    Helianthus Mammoth Russian
    Helianthus Monet's Palette
    Helianthus Moulin Rouge
    Helianthus Parasol Mix
    Helianthus Pro Cut Lemon
    Helianthus Pro Cut Orange
    Helianthus Ring of Fire
    Helianthus Sole Doro
    Helianthus Sundance Kid
    Iris (Spuria)
    Lathyrus Bijou Mix
    Lathyrus odoratus Spencer Mix
    Lathyrus odoratus Old Spice Mix
    Lathyrus Sweet Pea Burpee Patio Mix (bush type)
    Leucanthemum Crazy Daisy (*already have this growing)
    Lilium Orienpet Mix
    Lupinus Russell's Hybrid Mix
    Melissa officinalis (Lemon Balm)
    Moluccella Laevis (Bells of Ireland)
    Monarda lambada
    Nigella "Jewels" (Love-in-a-Mist)
    Penstemon Red Rocks
    Rudbeckia hirta Cherokee Sunset
    Rudbeckia hirta Double Gold
    Rudbeckia Green Wizard
    Rudbeckia hirta Prairie Sun
    Rudbeckia Sonora
    Salvia Bonfire
    Statice Mixed
    Verbena bonariensis (Purpletop verbena)
    Zinnia Elegans California Giant
    Zinnia State Fair Mix

    Good luck.

    Bryan

  • phylrae
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks so much, Bryan, for looking through and commenting on my list. Yes, I would only be planting a few of each seed to use in my bouquets. If anyone else wants to add anything, feel free. I really appreciate your input. :0) Phyl

  • paveggie
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Phyl -- Wow, how would I pare down someone else's list when I'm over two hundred on my own!!

    If just seeding now, then most of the perennials, snaps, etc. would be late for this season. Most of the poppies, hermerocallis, cardinal climber & gazanias wouldn't be ideal cuts. I'd skip the petite marigolds & Bijou sweet peas for their short stems, etc. (BTW Bijou has been around a long time and I helped name the original little baby!!!)

    A few of my favorites to go with your established plants are the cinnamon basil, Amazon Neon dianthus,scabious & cactus zinnias, statice & Celosia spicata.

  • phylrae
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Sounds great, paveveggie. It's finally getting warmer here...looking forward to doing the rose pruning soon.
    :0) Phyl

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