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| Well, not really new to loving dahlia's, but i am new to this forum and at growing them. I started growing them for the first time this spring, really sucks this had to be the coolest summer in NW OH on record. Season is probably going to be short, and the cool temps have all the dahlia's in the area growing at about half the height. High 40's at night in june/august! what gives? lol So even though they are not very tall, nor are they rare/uncommon varieties, i'm still very proud of them and i think they are beautiful ....but what dahlia isn't? :) I'll post pics of my dahlia's in the near future, 3 out of 6 started blooming, one is budding and the fourth guy doesn't even have buds yet. the fifth guy.....it was mowed over and that was the end of it. I have coup de soleil potted with tiger lilies (bad, i know). I think i'm going to replace it. It's pretty, but i think i can do better. |
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- Posted by morpheuspa 7A--PA (My Page) on Thu, Aug 21, 14 at 13:34
| Pics or it didn't happen. :-) Welcome! Yeah, it's been a weird season. In my case, I added many dahlia very late as well...so I'm running under a double disadvantage. I've still managed lots of pretty blooms, so I'm not complaining too much. |
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| I am sorry to hear the cool weather affecting the growth of your dahlias. Wow, 40's is really low for the peak month of summer. Where I live in southeast PA, the cool weather has helped my dahlias to bloom profusely all summer. The lowest we get is in the mid 50's not 40's. Sky Angel Dahlia. |
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- Posted by bouquet_kansas z6Ks (My Page) on Sat, Aug 23, 14 at 1:04
| kousa,that photo of your dahlia is stunning!!! Sky Angel is gorgeous; will have to get it next season. carol |
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- Posted by bouquet_kansas z6Ks (My Page) on Sat, Aug 23, 14 at 1:08
| Auron22..........Several years ago I purchased a dahlia from one of the big box stores that was labeled Color Spectacle. Mine ended up without white tips also; so I thought it was just mislabeled. carol |
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- Posted by morpheuspa 7A--PA (My Page) on Sat, Aug 23, 14 at 11:50
| My color spectacle are just starting and they've never bloomed before. Indications are that mine will also lack the white tips, but I'll post a photo when they're in full bloom. I find I don't mind. The flower is pretty enough without it to pull it off. |
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- Posted by Queen-Gardener 5 OH (My Page) on Wed, Aug 27, 14 at 9:48
| I love dahlias . . . I have very fond childhood garden memories linked to dahlias. I do not have any right now, since I'm 28 and just starting my first real garden after moving around a bunch the past few years - cross-country and back, then around town three times . . . yuck. I'm also in OH, and I was amazed by the 40's in the middle of summer!!!! Weird weather after that hard, harsh winter!!! I was wondering, those dahlias that the nurseries and stores sell as "annuals," are they really annuals? Are they different from the tuber kind? I had one once, but I had to leave it so I never got to experiment with it. And I was on Swan Island's site, Dahlias.com, and I saw mixed seed for sale. Do they bloom the first year? I got seeds for Mignon in a trade the other day, and I was going to hold off until next spring to plant - is that OK? Will it become a new plant with a tuber I have to dig up each year? Sorry I'm hijacking this thread . . . but I felt the same way when I saw the title of this thread - I am a new dahlia lover and I've just appeared on this site like a week ago :-) If anyone is trading, I really, really, really need "Pooh" - for my kids and I to enjoy!!!! I'd rather not have to buy it for big bucks - I can trade for it, and I can be patient enough for seeds to grow, just as long as I have the hope that I will have those pretty little blooms!! That reminds me, what are all the different types? I know of the dinner plate dahlias and the collarettes . . . Thanks! |
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| Queen-Gardener, I don't mind at all :) I don't know anything about dahlia seed in particular, but i can tell you that no plant seed conceived naturally is the exact same as the parent, in some plants the differences are negligible, but in others it is greatly varied. Things like that don't bother many people...but for some reason i'm weird about it. Everything has to have a name for me.... Unless i have this wrong, i'm pretty sure all dahlia's have tubers and are tender perennials, not true annuals. There are quite a few dahlia types.....i'll provide a link to a list i found on google. someone more qualified than me will probably provide some input soon. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlia types
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- Posted by morpheuspa 7A--PA (My Page) on Thu, Aug 28, 14 at 1:32
| >>Unless i have this wrong, i'm pretty sure all dahlia's have tubers and are tender perennials, not true annuals. Correct, although I treat my Harlequin as annuals as a general rule. I don't have to, they could be lifted. Really, a lot of plants in our gardens are short-lived perennials we treat as annuals in our respective climates. >>I don't know anything about dahlia seed in particular, but i can tell you that no plant seed conceived naturally is the exact same as the parent, By definition, although I've collected seed from plenty of Salvia species and the daughters are the same as the mothers, for the most part. Over time, the Salvia splendens are getting a bit taller and I did breed a few cultivars together to get the leaf and flower style I wanted. Dahlia are incredibly unpredictable. We humans have two copies of each chromosome. Many flowering plants have more than two (even some with odd numbers like some zinnia species--Profusion has three). It helps if you can't meander around and find a mate whose genes don't resemble yours by keeping harmful mutations from reinforcing as easily. That's why plants can self-fertilize and the daughters usually do just fine. Dahlia have eight copies of each chromosome! (The technical term is "octoploidal.") The number of possible recombinations just on a self-fertilization is incredible. Unfortunately it means it's hard to breed any two plants and get anything you expect. The only reliable way to reproduce a dahlia with the same characteristics as the parent is by cloning. You can split the tubers, or root a green shoot, both work fine. Most of us split the tubers to reproduce our dahlia but some people around here do root cuttings. |
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- Posted by Queen-Gardener 5 OH (My Page) on Thu, Aug 28, 14 at 8:54
| Thank you guys for the information! So I guess I shouldn't be asking for "Pooh" seeds anymore! :-) I'm going to try out the Mignon seeds I just got in a trade, and that seed packet on Swan Island's website is so tempting . . . because of the beautiful picture! |
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