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Any advice on keeping American Persimmon happy?
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Posted by blakekr Zone 6, NY State (My Page) on Wed, Apr 23, 08 at 14:02
| I'm planting a Meader persimmon, but it seems from what I read that they really need a male nearby to fruit to capacity. Problem is, I have a small lot and these are large trees and I can't really afford the square footage to plant a bunch of non-fruiting persimmons.
So my current plan is to plant the non-meaders too close together for the long term, but yank out all but one male as soon as they get big enough to tell the sex ... three, four years? Does this sound dopey? Is there a better way? |
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RE: Any advice on keeping American Persimmon happy?
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- Posted by picea 6A Cinci- Oh (My Page) on
Sun, May 4, 08 at 22:41
| The information I have read is that Meader will set fruit by itself so you won't need another persimmon. David |
RE: Any advice on keeping American Persimmon happy?
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The nursery catalogs frequently claim that Meader will set seedless fruit without a pollenizer - and it will do that in the Pacific Northwest, but that's a fluke associated with their climate. In the rest of the US, you've got to have a male pollen source in order for it to set fruit, and those fruits will be seeded, not seedless.
Better way would be to plant a grafted male - and one of the 'bisexual'(polygamodioecious) types, like Szukis or Claypool F-100 would be best, since they will pollenize your Meader, as well as producing some fruit, themselves.
John H. Gordon, Jr. Nursery in Amherst NY has offered Szukis in the past, and may also have F-100. |
RE: Any advice on keeping American Persimmon happy?
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| We have one Persimmon tree we planted in our yard about 30 years ago. I no longer know what kind it is. It gives us plenty of fruit every year. It is now necessary to use a step ladder in order to reach much of the fruit. I pick them when they are ripe (soft), wash them, and eat with a spoon over a sink. I also make Persimmon Cakes and puddings, and our favorite, Persimmon Cookies which can be frozen. We give much of the fruit and cookies away to those who enjoy them. (Save your clear plastic containers with covers to protect them as they are transported, as they are very soft when best.) |
RE: Any advice on keeping American Persimmon happy?
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| I can't find an online source for Szukis or Claypool F-100. Does anyone know of any? |
RE: Any advice on keeping American Persimmon happy?
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| Szukis is available from John 'Nuttree' Gordon Nursery in Amherst NY and from my friends the Brittains at Nolin River Nut Tree Nursery in Upton KY. NRNTN may also have F-100, but they don't list it - might be worth asking for it. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Nolin River Nut Tree Nursery
RE: Any advice on keeping American Persimmon happy?
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| Hi, Meader IS self-fruitful. I live on the Northeast coast, NJ, and my small Meader set fruit last year without a single locally present native male persimmon in the area. The fruit contained no seeds, hence my certainty that it was not fertilized. I just wanted to mention this to limit the reoccurring misinformation about it being a fluke or salmon or whatever other fish on any coast. The thing I want to find out is the situation regarding it having perfect flowers. Does it produce pollen for other (female) varieties? |
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