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Fruit Trees in Calgary Pollinators

morphoz3a_ab
14 years ago

Hi

I'm researching apple, apricot and plum trees for my small backyard in Calgary. I'm reading conflicting information on pollinators.

I can only fit a maximum of 3 trees in the space (max spread 4m), so I need to decide what to grow. I've pretty much decided on 2 apple varieties for the best pollination even though there is a crabapple tree across the front street about 200 m away.

I've read that some plums can cross pollinate with Nanking cherry and others with sandcherry. Then I've read that no, they require another plum tree of the same origin (Japanese vs European) in order to produce fruit.

I've also read the same thing about apricots.

So which is true? Plums can cross pollinate with Nanking cherry - or is it Apricots?

I was leaning toward an apricot, but if I have to get 2 borderline-hardy trees to get fruit I may re-think this.

I'm a pretty basic gardener just getting my feet wet with this and am pretty confused already without thinking about grafting and rootstock. OK, I guess I'm really saying can you dumb it down for me? I know all that stuff makes a difference, but I'll jump into that particular pool once I decide plum or apricot!

Thanks for your help.

Comments (9)

  • don555
    14 years ago

    I'd recommend you steer away from apricot if you have limited space. I took a course on fruit growing here in Edmonton and the instructor said the trees are fully hardy but the fruit buds are killed at -30C (can take as low as -34 for brief duration), and that you are lucky to get fruit once every 5 years here. Apple trees are so common (and you say there is one near you) that I think you could put in one apple and not worry about cross-pollination because the neighbour's trees will suffice. If you are worried about it, you could buy one of those apple trees that have two or more varieties grafted onto one tree (or do it yourself). I have a Pembina plum that wasn't producing much fruit so I grafted on two branches of "Perfection" plum (which has the same bloom period) and ever since then I get around 200 plums each year. I did the same with a "Ure" pear... grafted on two branches of some very sour pear but that allowed the Ure pear to get pollinated. (I don't recommend pear though, as most of mine just fall in the yard and attract a million wasps). Thgat's kind of rambling, but I hope it helps.

  • morphoz3a_ab
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Hi Don

    Thanks for the info. I think I might have to go for plum. Whether or not I can get a grafted tree is kind of hit or miss down here as the nurseries don't really have very good websites for searching.

    Sounds like you are in Edmonton - do you have a good source for fruit trees up there? My Evans Cherry made the trip in the back of my truck 2 years ago (bought from Wellington Gardens), so I am OK with making a road trip.

    Thanks!

  • don555
    14 years ago

    Any of the big nurseries here will have a selection of fruit trees in season -- apples, pear, plum, cherry. I ususally go to Salisbury in Sherwood Park, or Greenland, just east of Edmonton on the Yellowhead highway (16). Holes Greenhouses and Gardens in St. Albert probably has the most extensive selection, but it's kind of far for me. I did pick up a couple of haksaps from there last year though.

    I used to go to Bon Accord to Sprout Farms, which specialized in fruit trees and bushes for Alberta. Unfortunately they shut down the nursery part of their business some years ago (I think they now run as a u-pick apple orchard). Closer to you, DNA gardens near Pine Lake also specialized in Alberta-hardy fruit. They used to run a storefront like a regular nursery, but I think that closed last summer. They might still do retail business by appointment... you could check their website to see, or contact them (there is a contact email on their website). I think their main business is u-pick orchard stuff now, but it's probably worth contacting them.

  • intotheark
    14 years ago

    DNA Gardens is no more, retired
    Prairie Tech bought their supplies etc.
    they should be able to ship to Calgary
    (i believe they are in Bonneyville)

    take care

    Here is a link that might be useful: prairietech

  • intotheark
    14 years ago

    my apologies
    after searching prairie tech's site, they do not have apples
    but, i did check some of my seed catalogs
    T&T seeds out of Winnipeg, offers 2 dwarf apples, Norland and Goodland, as well as 3 regular varieties, hardy and they will ship

    i've ordered a number of trees from them and been happy

    Here is a link that might be useful: T&t

  • intotheark
    14 years ago

    no edit function on this forum

    meant to say, i haven't ordered apples specifically from T&T
    but other fruits,lilacs etc.

    i do have some other catalogs, that list other apples, like columnar, but from ontario area

  • don555
    14 years ago

    The latest issue of the Gardener for the Prairies magazine (Spring 2010) has an article on growing plums on the prairies. It goes into a lot of detail on pollination requirments, cultivars and propogation. The article is written by a technician at the U of Sask. who has obviously spent a lot of time working in the fruit orchard there.

  • morphoz3a_ab
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Hi

    Finally checking in again - thanks for the information. I'll have to get the magazine from the library.

    Thanks for the links, intotheark. I really didn't want to go with mail order as I wanted a caliper tree at least, but after some visits to greenhouses here in Calgary, it looks like I have Hobson's choice.

    I've decided on a combination apple (because the ones that have been ordered for Sunnyside and Golden Acre have Honeycrisp) and a Pembina Plum. I'm getting a western sandcherry (Prunus besseyi) for the plum and a Nanking for me : )

    I'm also getting a Juliet cherry (which are reportedly self fertile) and some haskaps as I have read some good things about them. That, and some raspberries should fill up the yard and keep me busy canning this summer and fall.

    Cheers!

  • intotheark
    14 years ago

    there is a place south of cowtown, that completely slipped my mind
    it is called 'The Saskatoon Farm', outside of Okotoks,
    they carry cherries, plums, honeyberries, grapes, raspberries (unfortunately no apples this year)

    Here is a link that might be useful: Saskatoon Farm

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