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'Exotic' tree update

Posted by davidcalgary29 2b AB (My Page) on
Sun, May 27, 12 at 22:12

Thanks to all who encouraged me last year to try some extrazonal exotics and push the limits of northern gardening in Peace River! I provide the following update not to boast (as all success can be wiped out with an untimely freeze), but to help any others who are thinking about springing for an exotic in their own yard:

No damage:

ginkgo biloba, planted 2009
a. saccarhum 'green mountain', planted 2011
celtis occidentalis, planted 2009
robinia pseudoacacia 'purple robe', planted 2011
rhus typhina, planted 2011
rhus aromatica, planted 2011
'golden spice' pear, planted 2011

winterkill:

celtis tenufolia (to snowline)
morus alba (to snowline)
'valiant' grape (to two feet above ground)

RIP?

castanea dentata (survived much harsher winter of 2010-2011)

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fargesia rufa (tops died, but roots are still alive -- waiting for new growth!)

project for the year: taxodium distichum. This was a 'mistake' tree for a local nursery...and the thing would have died anyway if I hadn't bought it. My prospects of overwintering this are minimal...but I've heard that baldcypress is hardy to Ottawa. Plus, you never know.


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RE: 'Exotic' tree update

Way to go David. Maybe later in the year it would be a good idea to keep a photo log so you have an idea if these trees grow or just survive.


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Very interesting zone-pushing, I like that kind of thing!

Good job on the ginko, I had one in suburban Edmonton but it didn't make it through its first winter. Some growing at U of A though, and I know of a healthy older one in Drumheller, which must be about equal to your zone.

I've got a sugar maple that I planted as a seed almost 20 years ago... it's about 5 m tall now but is growing in a bush form since in bad winters it takes some serious winterkill (I don't think it had any winterkill this past winter).

I've tried black locust but they didn't do much for me... lived a few years, growing a foot or two each summer, then killing to snowline. For my relatives near Ottawa (which was my seed source) they grow like rockets. My planting location wasn't the best though...an increasingly shady garden.

Haven't tried sumac myself, but there is one in my neighbourhood that survives and looks good, though it isn't anywhere near as vigorous as the ones I used to see growing wild in Ontario (which is probably good, since they were almost weedy...)

I think the Valiant grape will do okay for you... I get a lot of top kill each year, but they survive and grow so amazingly vigorously over the summer that they end up huge every summer... I end up having to prune them with shears several times per summer just to keep them from overtaking everything. Plus they ripen early for a northern grape, a major consideration (I've had the crop ripen every year with Valiant, no exceptions).

Very cool that you were trying an American chestnut, too bad it died in its second winter. I've always wondered how they might do in Alberta, too bad they don't make it long-term.

Keep us informed on how the bamboo recovers and performs this summer... that's another one I've always wondered about but haven't tried.

Now you just need to try Horse chestnut, butternut, black walnut,... :-)


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As for the bald cypress... well it's unlikely in northern Alberta, but you never know until you try. The bald cypress trees in Ottawa I would call semi-hardy. They are 5 or 6 metres tall, or at least were when I saw them in 2002, but winterkill is definitely an issue. I recall that there are two bald cypress trees, and this photo is the upper part of the healthiest tree... this was taken in July 2002, and clearly it hasn't yet recovered from the previous winter's damage. Still, they are 5 m or more tall, so have obviously managed to make it through many winters (something in my head tells me these are 40 year old plantings, though I could be nuts about that, so don't quote me.)
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Wow, thanks for the pictures of the baldcypress! They're not the prettiest trees, but it's amazing to think that they're growing in Ottawa.

I'll definitely post pictures of the trees later in the season when they're in full leaf. I have noticed that older trees seem to survive colder temperatures much better than the seedlings; all of my trees that died were less than two feet tall.


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Sumac should be okay here, guy a couple houses down has it. Gets about three feet tall here.


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