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Hydrangeas on the Prairies ?

Posted by twrosz Z3 Ab. (My Page) on
Mon, Sep 3, 07 at 14:05

Last night as we walked around the upscale development of Terwilliger Park in south Edmonton, I was surprised to see several types of hydrangeas apparently thriving ... well, okay, most had been in the ground for only a year or two, but they sure we're looking good! I think what I had seen were grandiflora hydrangea 'Pee Gee' and it's similiar varieties such as 'Quick Fire'. Most were about three feet in height and loaded with their large clusters of cone shaped flowers. Then against the south and west side of someone's home, there were several plants of macrophylla 'Endless Summer' ... a nice surprise indeed! These have those large blue and pink mopheads.

I'm just wondering if these are truly hardy in the Edmonton area, OR if the DEEP snows of last winter and mild winter of '05 had been the major contributing factor to their success to date? I know 'Endless Summer' requires winter protection.

I'm familiar with hydrangea arborescens 'Annabelle' and it's huge white flower clusters, but beyond this one, what hydrangeas are you seeing thriving in your neighbourhood?

Terry


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RE: Hydrangeas on the Prairies ?

I see Pee Gee Hydrangeas thriving all over in northern Minnesota and we're any from zone 2b to 3b...

I'm guessing that if you plant them in a protected area away from the worst winds and elements, they'd thrive in zone 3.


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I have heard that they won't survive well in the Calgary area unless they are heavily mulched. Last year, probably around August, I planted an Endless Summer - but it didn't make it through the winter. I did not winter protect it at all and it was an experiment to see if it would live or not (incidently my zone 4 black beauty elder did make it with no additional care). This year I have planted Annabelle, Endless summer and Pee Gee, so I will see how they make it through the winter, although this time I will winter protect Annabelle and Endless Summer. I also plan to plant Pinky Winky - when ever I can find one to plant.


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  • Posted by pudge 2/3 Sask (My Page) on
    Sat, Mar 1, 08 at 10:36

I have the opportunity to order, thru my greenhouse grower neighbor, the new Hydrangea called Pinky Winky. After doing some internet reading (the blooms in the photos look stunning), all signs look good that this could be a winner for the far north garden. It's hardy to -40 (although its listed mostly as USDA zone 4) and blooms on new wood so even with tip kill it should still bloom. I've also read it's tolerant of a wide range of soil ph.

Mostly, I have to admit, the name just made me LOL and that's probably more the reason I'm ordering it.


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I love the name - please keep us posted on whether it is a success for you. I had thought of trying an Endless summer but ran out of space [for the time being]

Fern


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T&T Seeds carries 'Endless Summer' and for the most part their stuff is hardy to zone 3, possibly 2. I really want to try it but besides no room, also would feel more comfortable buying an actual potted plant from a nursery, instead of the bare root mail order thing.

Here is a link that might be useful: endless summer hydrangea


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I planted Endless Summer last year so we'll see if it survives. I've ordered Pinky Winky from T&T. Normally, as an avowed xeriscaper I don't use anything that can't survive here but a friend said hers were doing just fine, so I thought I'd give it a try. The blooms on these two are gorgeous and not as droopy as Pee Gee
Kate


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I just purchased Pinky Winky the other day.

Hydrangea Pinky Winky

Very nice ....some in the greenhouse was starting to show pink tones.

Shelley


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I planted a Pee Gee last spring and it came through winter with flying colors and it is close to blooming right now.
I only trimmed the tips off this spring, and mainly due to a certain puppy who kinda was chew crazy for awhile. (thank goodness that stage is over with!:)
It was not mulched, but was under good snow cover.
And like Pudge, I bought Pinky Winky this spring mainly due to the name and also of course for its color.
It wasn't on my "to buy" list, but there were so many healthy plants at Wickhams this spring, I couldn't resist
It is going great guns and starting to flower right now.
Deb


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Pee Gee is perfectly hardy in Edmonton, perhaps not so much in Calgary unless in a location sheltered from our dessicating chinook winds.

Endless Summer is supposely hardy in Calgary, however it dies back to the ground.


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Quick Fire has been in bloom for about six weeks now and again flushing on new wood, it's a very good hydrangea that puts on a PROLONGED show. Little Lamb is a real looker with its awesome large full flower heads, real NICE stuff! I like them both very much, QuickFire for it's earliness, but more so Little Lamb for those FULL flower ...

Both are situated in protected sites and I'm hoping they do well coming through the winter ... though, I think I'm gonna protect them just to make sure.

Terry


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I did purchase and plant an 'Endless Summer' Hydrangea this spring. Time will tell how it survives winter, but it was almost worth the price just for how well it has bloomed this summer. The blooms on my plant weren't quite pink, but more purple pink and lately the last few blooms are blue. It might have something to do with fertilizing it with conifer fertilizer.

Anyways, I can see what the fuss is about, this plant definitely has a long bloom period and really stands out.

The only thing is I planted mine in quite a bit of sun. They say they prefer afternoon shade, but the more north you go the more sun they can tolerate. I guess it's like that with alot of plants. Anyways, some afternoons it droops in the sun but perks up once in the shade again. Other times if it droops and the soil is dry, I water and it seems to perk up. It's a fine line, though. I don't want to overwater but do recognize that the root system likely isn't too spread out to obtain adequate water and the amended soil that the plant is in is like more prone to drying out.

Glen


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  • Posted by pudge 2/3 Sask (My Page) on
    Sat, Apr 18, 09 at 11:01

I moved some mulch and scratched the wood on Pinky Winky and it appears to have survived winter quite well.


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Pudge, I see 'QuickFire' has wintered well, the stems are green way up :) I'll probably plant another one of these. I'll have to check how 'Little Lamb' has managed, I'm guessing it should be fine, as it was well protected under a deep blanket of snow.

'Twist-n-Shout' is a new lacecap variety that flowers on new wood.

Terry


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  • Posted by pudge 2/3 Sask (My Page) on
    Wed, May 27, 09 at 1:35

I couldn't resist - Regina Costco has really nice pots of Limelight which also flowers on new wood and is hardy to USDA 3 (that's close enough for me). A friend for Pinky Winky.


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How are everyone's Hydrangeas doing now?

Would love one but I'd sure like to know which will have the best chance here.

Pictures would be great, too =:)

Thanks!


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  • Posted by pudge 2/3 Sask (My Page) on
    Sat, Jul 30, 11 at 18:15

My Limelight is going to have a lot of blooms this year - they are just starting to form now.

Pinky Winky died from a late spring frost in its second year.


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Oohhhh, poor Pinky Winky.

I'll look forward to pictures of your Limelight, Pudge.


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I have two Quick Fire. They're both blooming. Basically no die back on either over the winter. The rabbits did do a number on the one in the front yard, so it's smaller but it's still going strong.

I also planted a White Diamond a few weeks ago. The tag says it's hardy to zone 2.


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I searched for "hydrangea" in this forum and found this very useful thread - thank you!

I am a huge fan of hydrangeas - before I moved here, I was in zone 5b and I planted all sorts of macrophyllas, arborescens and paniculatas. My favourites had to be Quick Fire (for its gorgeous, prolonged show), Limelight (for its vigor), and my Endless Summer (for its amazing show of abundant blue blooms). My Pinky Winky surprisingly did not do as well and it was also a favourite snack of the local bambis so poor thing never had a good chance... Now that I am in zone 3, I am sure that Endless Summer will not be a good idea for me (I am not going to baby it LOL), and I am very much looking forward to planting some paniculatas here.

My zone 5b Limelight was over 6 feet tall in barely 3-4 years and my Quick Fire was about 5 feet tall in about 3 years. I am guessing that they would not get this big here in Calgary?

Oh, and has anyone seen the Strawberry Vanilla hydrangea for sale here in Calgary yet?


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OK, OK, folks! I was searching for "hydrangea" here and then found this thread again!!!

I am wondering if those of you who have hydrangeas in zone 3 or colder for over a year now could give a report as to how your lovelies are doing please? I would love to hear the report! Thank you.


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I bought a Quick Fire last year and didn't find the time to plant it. I sunk it in a hole for the winter and it got only a small amount of snow, no more than 6 inches.

It's got lovely green leaves all over it now =:)


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Thanks, nutsaboutflowers! It's great to hear that your Quick Fire is doing so well! I would love to have one in my yard.... :-)

I would love to hear from the others!


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'Little Lamb' is slow to get going, though has plenty of live wood.

'Incrediball' had grown very well last summer, lots of strong stems and massive blooms. Had planted it a deeper and hilled it up for winter, this spring it's surprisingly dead as a door nail! Thankfully, I had rooted a few cuttings and now planted these closer to the foundation of the house where I hope for better success.

'Early Sensation' is coming with strong new shoots from the base ... this is a variety much like 'Endless Summer', though I consider it superior when it comes to bloom production. I always hill this one up for winter.

Have 'Tuff Stuff' on order from GardenImport.


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I've had Pinky Winky growing in zone 2 b for the past three years, without any extra protection.


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So do you guys follow the recommendation of partial shade? Or do your plants do fine in sun?


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Mine gets morning and some afternoon sun, but it is shaded by the house by late afternoon.


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My limelight is on its third spring and still kicking. Its leafing out nicely right now. Its on the north side of the house, but fairly sheltered and gets both morning and evening light but is protected from the harshness of afternoon by the shadow of the house. Maybe I will try a pink one this year if i can find one cheap enough.


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Thank you, everyone, for your updates! It is very encouraging to hear that some of my favourite hydrangeas do well in zone 3 and even zone 2 climate!

Has anyone tried that Invincibelle Spirit (or something like that?) - the pink Annabelle that just came out a few years ago? How about Little Lime? Is it just as hardy as Limelight?

Thank you again!


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