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Anyone going to grow melons in 2014?

I am sitting here contemplating my stokes order and am seriously considering ordering the Muskmelon/cantaloupe 'Dutchess' and the watermelons 'Sweet Favorite' and 'New Yellow Baby'. Anybody else considering melons?

If my seeds come quickly I am hoping to try them under grow lights over the winter. Anyone have some bees I can borrow? LOL

SCG

Comments (56)

  • don555
    9 years ago

    Reviving this old post. Yellow Doll watermelons sprouted indoors and now growing under poly-tunnels in the garden. Last year these watermelons were extremely successful, thanks to a long, hot September. Hoping for success again this year.

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I tried starting 20 plants indoors and only had 8 germinate. I can't remember the varieties as they were all I could find locally. Unfortunately I am down to one out of 8 plants and am unsure of which variety that is now. I allowed my 3 and 5 year old daughters to weed along my rock border....well I planted them all too close to the border and my 3 yr old thought they were weeds.....I replanted them all but it seems only one survived...... it is quite obvious my kids have a innate sense to stop me from growing melons...

    Good luck don.

    SCG

  • Pudge 2b
    9 years ago

    I am attempting Sureness hybrid watermelon (65 day), seed from William Dam. I say attempting because they are still growing in pots in the greenhouse. They germinated easily on a heat mat and have grown well in pots. But the weather has NOT been helping matters at all ... last week I actually brought them into the house to keep them warm because 3 nights in a row the temps went to 2 or 3 degrees. I had hoped to plant them out this weekend, but it's cold and raining - something that is forecast to continue forever (if you believe what environment canada has to say). At least I had the wherewithall to plan them in larger pots: 2 plants per pot and the roots are just now reaching the bottom so they are not stressing. I plan to put them under hooped row cover and they'll have a very warm (well, potentially, haha), protected spot in the garden this year.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Sureness

  • Scrub64
    9 years ago

    I planted watermelons in the garden last year. I don't recall the variety, but they were supposed to have yellow flesh. I got a couple of cantaloupe size fruit, but they didn't have enough time to ripen. They tasted like cucumber.

  • FrozeBudd_z3/4
    9 years ago

    Pretty tough conditions so far this growing season, highs very frequently struggle to make 20 C and nights are cold. Just set out my cucumber transplants and sure gonna put a row cover on them. Today, a fella told me that all his cucumber transplants turned white and died from the chilly weather. Let's hope the heat kicks in soon!

    My friends who had moved to the Okanagan had given me a call and spoke of months of warm settled weather they've already enjoyed and the beautiful manicured yards and streetscapes seen everywhere, like rub it in lol. But, I do have my own bit of paradise living here in the rolling hills north of Spruce Grove with the amazing piece of property we were so very fortunate to find just across from a lake where the loons can often be heard crying out. The yard is full of gorgeous towering birch trees, chockcherries, saskatoons, hazelnuts, dogwood, wild roses, wild blue clematis, honeysuckle vines, bunchberries, rough fruited fairy bells, bedstraw, dogbane and fireweed, the last three being rather very attractive weeds ... now, never mind the awesome chorus of birds!

    The forecast given this morning on Global News has bumped up the temperatures for mid week and onward, we'll see if this really holds true or not.

    This post was edited by twrosz on Sun, Jun 15, 14 at 11:38

  • donna_in_sask
    9 years ago

    It's been a horrible start to the summer. I just got my garden in last week and with all this cold and rain, I don't know whether the seeds will germinate or rot in the ground. Bummer.

    The only melons I have ever grown in my Saskatoon garden were some cantaloupe that showed up in my compost pile. I had no idea what I was growing until the "netting" developed on the skin.

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Funny you should mention that donna. I have the same thing going in my compost pile. I "think" some cantaloupe. Will be interesting as it gets zero sunshine...

    SCG

  • brittanyw
    9 years ago

    I'm growing melons for the first time this year, and I have a Sugar Cube, Piel de Sapo, and Papaya Dew at my community garden plot. Between the Sugar Cube and Papaya Dew I've got at least seven fruits, all baseball or softball sized. The Piel de Sapo is a little behind; I got it in late and it'll hopefully be flowering soon. At my apartment in a container I also have two Minnesota Midget plants just starting to flower. I put in a Mickylee watermelon and another melon I can't remember the name of at my parents' house in their plot, but I seriously doubt they're going to remember to water it.

  • FrozeBudd_z3/4
    9 years ago

    Hi brittanyw ... nice for you to chime in here on the frozen far north forum :) ... the growing season here is very short and often very unpredictable. This year, it's been especially cool and things are progressing slowly, especially any heat loving plants such as melons and even in good years, these often take until well into September to mature, just in time for frost ... so, the earliest maturing varieties need be selected and care and pampering required if there's any hope in eating your own out of the garden melons. PS, send some heat this way!

    Terrance

  • don555
    9 years ago

    Yes, I think my watermelon plants just got their third leaf :) Seriously. Maybe I should move to zone 8...

  • mattpf (zone4)
    9 years ago

    My melons are blooming like crazy now but only male flowers. I'm really hoping to get fruit

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    *sigh* it has been so cool here my melon is not doing much of anything.....this spring has been so frustrating.

  • don555
    9 years ago

    I assumed my melons were slower this year as we really have not had any hot days, but I pulled back the cover and checked them yesterday (June 27) and was surprised to see they were forming short vines. Purely by coincidence I had taken pics of my melons last year on the exact same date, so perfect for a comparison.

    Yellow Doll watermelons, June 27, 2013:
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    Yellow Doll watermelons, June 27, 2014:
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    Now I just need similar warmth we had last year in July and August, plus another hot September.

  • don555
    9 years ago

    Melons ahead of last year, looks like they are starting to set a few fruit now. Guess the hot weather of the past 2 weeks has been good for them.

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Bah! Mine just got decimated by a four legged slug.

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I still hadn't had flowers so wasn't holding much hope. Looks great!

  • mattpf (zone4)
    9 years ago

    I have some starting to set fruit now.
    There is a secret .... They do it around osoyoos and around okanagan ,and that is to cover them with clear plastic so it's basically a sweat box. Don't have to be neat it just creates a temp of much higher than outside under the Polly sheet that is more natural. I've tried melons lots all failed ...
    They cannot tolerate the dry prarie they are from tropical humid climates.
    They are used to plus 35-40 degrees with 80 percent humidity .
    I leave the sides open and use bamboo sticks to hold the sheet above the plant and weight Down with a few bricks.
    Lots of it grows out of the plastic but I noticed a ten gold difference once I did this

  • NortheastKingdom
    9 years ago

    I am a small scale commercial vegetable grower in northern Vermont. Our last frost date is typically the last week of May to first week of June with first fall frosts in mid September. I start my melons indoors May 1st and then transplant outdoors the first or second week of June depending on the weather. I use black and infrared transmitting soil mulches to significantly increase soil temperatures. Currently, I have Blacktail Mountain watermelons transplanted around June 5th onto infrared transmitting mulch now weighing nearly 8 pounds. I am also growing Crimson Sweet, Sugar Baby, and Little Baby Flower watermelons; Halona and Sarah's Choice cantaloupe; Honey White honeydews and Savor Charentais melons. I have gotten really good results growing melons on dark plastic mulches. I have also seen people place flat dark rocks around melon plants to act as heat sinks. Furthermore, people around here also use old vehicle and tractor tires as raised beds. I am not sure what sorts of residues might leach into the soil from old tires, however the black color tends to increase soil temperatures significantly. Best wishes to everyone trying grow ripe melons before frost hits.

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Thanks all, food for thought and I will consider these options for my garden next year.

    I do have my melons/gourds in the wrong spot as most haven't produced flowers yet....lesson learned.

    SCG

  • squirelette
    9 years ago

    i have 2 itty bitty melons going and I was wondering if it would help or hinder to cut off most of the plant so it is able to put all its energy into the fruit instead of blooming madly as fruit setting now won't have time to ripen any suggestions

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Northeastkingdom, I been thinking about this and are you hand pollinating because if the covers? The answer screams yes but it am curious.

    SCG

  • don555
    9 years ago

    Squirelette, don't cut off the plant, it needs all those leaves to generate food so your melons can grow. The flowers aren't going to cost the plant much energy so just ignore them. If you want to cut off any new melons that form though, that would help the focus the plants efforts into making the remaining melons bigger (though it won't help them ripen any earlier).

  • NortheastKingdom
    9 years ago

    I have been using plastic mulches, therefore I cut a hole into the plastic and plant each seedling into the plastic. I do not use row covers. Infrared transmitting plastic mulch allows the infrared radiation of the sun to pass through it warming the soil while preventing visible light from passing through. The result is soil temperatures approximately 8 to 10 degrees higher than ambient soil temperatures. Those few degrees can really boost melon growth even here in one of the cloudiest areas of the United States. Fortunately, this summer has been quite sunny and warm (15 day highs so far above 80 degrees) and the melons are maturing well ahead of last year.
    A neighboring farm places row covers over their melons until they begin to flower, then they remove them so that the bees can pollinate. That farm brings in honeybees. My main pollinators seem to be bumblebees as the wild honeybee population has utterly collapsed over the past few years.

  • mattpf (zone4)
    9 years ago

    I cut my melons down and gave up. All the work put in huge plants with melons the size or marbles. It's August and not enough time. That will be last time I try melons

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I was going to do the same. I don't even have fruits but the foliage is nice it sits in front if some potentilla. Next year I am going to give it one more go. My luck has to change.

    SCG

  • don555
    9 years ago

    Hmm, is this encouragement or bragging? Maybe both. I think there are 8 icebox melons in the patch now, 5 bigger ones and 3 still sizing up.

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  • FrozeBudd_z3/4
    9 years ago

    It's definitely a gooood summer for heat loving plants!

  • don555
    9 years ago

    Yes, excellent for warm weather crops... picked the first corn of the season on Monday (Aug. 11). It's an early variety (Quickie), but I think in most years it's late August before it ripens for me, early September in a cool summer. Picked my first 2 ripe tomatoes on July 17, that must be my earliest ever! Tomato plants now 6' tall, vs 4' by the end of 2013. Looking forward to a good acorn squash harvest too, usually a borderline crop that might or might not ripen for me.

  • squirelette
    9 years ago

    So after numerous disappointments of getting little melons starting and then shriveling up and disappearing I finally got a melon going it is about fist size now and another half dozen of other smaller sizes. They are supposed to be Sugar Baby and they are grafts. I an wondering if there is any hope that they will ripen before winter rolls in. One site I saw said about 5 weeks anybody got a ray of hope for me. I will try this again next year but now that I now that they need to be hand pollinated I am kind of excited could not have asked for a better season this year tho from what I read

  • don555
    9 years ago

    You still have hope, it's going to depend what the weather is like going forward. I looked at my garden notes from last year, and I dedided I had some melons pollinated on Aug. 12 when they had reached ping-pong ball size, and it seems you are probably very close to that. They didn't ripen until late September and into October, so it might be touch and go for you. You can protect the vines and melons with blankets on frosty nights to extend your season as long as possible.

  • FrozeBudd_z3/4
    9 years ago

    When I had grown melons, I'd hand pollinate the blooms to help ensure fruit set, as I do for pumpkins and zucchini. I wish I would have planted melons this spring, it's been a warm summer and the pumpkins are already orange.

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    twrosz, I find it interesting your pumpkins are already orange as my plants just decided to flower! LOL. Obviously they don't like where I put them.

    Next year is going to be the year I succeed with melons......

    SCG

  • squirelette
    9 years ago

    definitely hand pollinating I did not get many female flowers so I will have to amend the soil to get less vine and more female flowers, the vines are filling a space 6' wide by nearly 14' long. Got the first melon by bee the rest are all hand pollinated
    Terry those waterlilies are going gang busters the changeable one- Peaches and cream?? has leaves bigger than dinner plates

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    As a novice melon grower I am intrigued on how the soil determines sex of the flowers and vine length? While blooming incredibly late I have more female than male.

    SCG

  • squirelette
    9 years ago

    I don't remember which site is was but they suggested that amending the soil would increase the number of female Flowers or maybe it was water. I just really wanted 1 ripe melon this year so I will give it my best next year unless it is still snowing in July then I will just wish for spring lol

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    lol I have 20 pumpkins going now but well too late to be big enough to chuck at the neighbours. lol

    SCG

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    lol I have 20 pumpkins going now but well too late to be big enough to chuck at the neighbours. lol

    SCG

  • FrozeBudd_z3/4
    9 years ago

    SCG, by amending and fertilizing the soil you'll get bigger stronger plants that are more likely to set flowers and fruit, in lean soils the plants will not come to full potential and peter out earlier in the season.

    squirelett, glad to hear that waterlily is doing so very well and yes, the name is 'Peaches and Cream.

  • Pudge 2b
    9 years ago

    I've been really pleased with the Sureness watermelon I'm growing. I picked a ripe one today, and the biggest so far (there are a total of 8 melons growing on 3 plants). It weighs 3.5 kg, or just under 8 pounds.

  • Pudge 2b
    9 years ago

    Sureness is a yellow-fleshed watermelon, but the colour sure doesn't take away anything from the taste - incredibly sweet and really, really juicy. It's a big treat to have fresh watermelon in Saskatchewan!

  • SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Nice melon! I can't wait till next year I am going to beat my melon jinx.

    SCG

  • don555
    9 years ago

    Pudge, that's really impressive! My Yellow Doll have sized up but I think are still a long way from ripe... the tendril and spoon leaf beside the melon stems are still completely green.

  • squirelette
    9 years ago

    So jealous my biggest is getting bigger every day but I figure another couple weeks if the weather holds. hopefully will do better next year definitely trying again next year after seeing yours

  • Pudge 2b
    9 years ago

    These plants actually took a bit of a beating early on (7 inches of rain the week after they were transplanted), one plant appeared to be all but dead, but then they did bounce back nicely once the heat hit in July. That first ripe melon was picked 70 days after transplanting. Sureness is supposed to be a 65-day so that appears accurate, even here. We did have a very nice July and August - good rains, lots of heat (LOTS of mosquitos) and plenty of bees. I fertilized them twice with 15-30-15 to bring on the blooms.

  • don555
    9 years ago

    Now the important question.... where did you get the seeds? :)

  • Pudge 2b
    9 years ago

    The seed came from William Dam (damseeds.ca) If you've not ordered from them before, I can highly recommend them - one of my favourite places

    Here is a link that might be useful: William Dam Seeds

  • don555
    9 years ago

    Thanks!

  • momof4ont
    9 years ago

    I'm growing Far North Melons and Algonquin Pumpkins from www.heritageharvestseeds.com this year. I'm very impressed. The pumpkins are much larger than I expected, and continue to ripen after picking. I've picked 4 so far and moved them to my cold room. Probably another 15 still out there from 6 plants.

  • momof4ont
    9 years ago

    The Far North Melons are a strange little surprise. The plants are quite small and I didn't think they were actually going to do anything. They started flowering when the plants were only about 6" long. Each plant has attempted at least 3 fruit. They taste like a mild cantaloupe, and are smaller than baseballs. I'll take small over unripened any day!

  • don555
    9 years ago

    Bit late to the party, but better late than never (frost took out the leaves but the melons themselves are fine and I think the frost may have even triggered ripening).

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