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Chicago hardy fig tree - Is this container too big?

bedtime
10 years ago

I purchased a 2 gallon chicago hardy fig tree. It measured 34" in the original container (measured from tip to bottom of the container). It was pot bound with massive roots coming out all holes so I repotted it in this terra cotta container that measures 16" diagonal. The mix is 1:1 potting soil and perlite.

Is this container too big? How long before growth usually starts?

Anyways I'm new to figs.

Comments (27)

  • fignewbies
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi,

    The container looks big for the fig tree!
    I would add a "The Plant Caddy":
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKsAu2xUy3U
    so it will be much easier (better for the back) to move this pot and
    easier to clean the area around the pot!

  • bedtime
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    fignewbies,

    Thanx for the link. Right now carrying it around is not a bother so I'm okay.

    So the pot is too big? I'll see about getting one that is abit smaller then. Is there any way to speed up budding?

  • ottawan_z5a
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    You don't need to change the pot.

    Your fig is growing like a whip. You need it to branch out at this stage. To make it branch out you need to prune off the top (between 4 to 6 top nodes). You can use the cutting to root and have one additional plant.

  • bedtime
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    ottawan_z5a,

    I forgot to post my zone but I'm in Canada too. :)

    As for the whip like growth, I actually prefer it. my plan is to make this a decently tall tree, about 6 - 7 feet. I'd rather have the growth be in the height instead but I'm new and I don't know if this is possible. Will there be any consequences to doing this, such as decreased crop...

  • soaht
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    In a way yes, less branch= less crop produce. Some fig variety will only produce on the old branch/old wood of last year's growth(breba crop). Because it needs a pollinator, the fig wasp which is native to the middle east to pollinate the second crop(main crop) on the new groth. Some have been import to California tho. I doubt you have any in the cold north of Canada up there. Some will produce both a breba and main crop which will be produce on the new growth. These are self fertile variety fig trees so they don't need a fig wasp to pollinate and produce figs. But if your fig produce on the new growth, then you don't have to worry about anything, except pruning. More branch does= to more fruit produce tho whether it's a breba only or both a main and breba fig.

  • bedtime
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    soaht,

    Thanx. This fig tree will produce 2 crops in one year. It is also self-pollinating. I guess I'll just leave it as is for now.

  • ottawan_z5a
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    A height of 6 to 7 feet is good for a fig plant in ground. But a 7 ft tall tree in pot branched at the top will be problematic from stability point of view and more so on windy days.

    Fruit accessibility, pinching the branches for fruit production etc will require a step ladder etc.

    A good form wil be a trunk with a number of branchess placed at different heights of the trunks.

    Also remember, brebas are produced on previous year wood and the main (2nd) crop on the current year wood. So, to keep the plant shape you will need some pruning of branches rather than extention of the branch every year with fruits at the far end as you see when tree is left un-pruned.

    The other way is to learn by experience by letting it grow and see what you like and don't like and make changes accordingly.

  • bedtime
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    ottawan_z5a,

    You're right, 6 or 7 feet may be abit high and there are often very high winds on the balcony this high up (10 floors). I'd like the tree to be at least 3.5 feet (where the first branching is, the top would be higher of course) so it can clear the balcony railing and get full unimpeded sun. Also, when the plant goes indoors again for the winter I'd like it to be high enough to reach the window to get sun. I could easily put it on top of something to raise it but my plan is to have some other plants underneith it and generally I just like the idea of a tall tree.

    I could support it with a stake if that would help. I don't care about the figs at all btw, and will be pruning them as soon as I see them. I'm only growing this for fig leaf tea. I'm a big tea lover. My citrus is the same way; just for the leaves to make tea. The citrus is about 3.5 feet up at the first branch and it's just perfect for me. That's what I'd for the fig. And it's a big aesthetic thing for me as well.

    My hope is that if I start it on the balcony and keep it on the balcony during its stages of infant leaf growth it'll adapt well to the wind. I could easily put the fig beside a wall that would help to block about 80% of the wind if need be.

    Sorry to run on.

  • GuoGuo
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It says that the Chicago hardy fig is Zone5 plant. Anyone in Zone5 has experiences with growing it in ground?

  • bedtime
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    GuoGuo,

    I've looked around and it seems that even 6a areas are very tough to over-winter a mature fig in. My fig says, 'zone 6a'.

    Here's the tree update. Its budding:

  • fignewbies
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi,

    GuoGuo: I live in Toronto, Canada and I put my fig tree which
    was indoored for more than 5 years into the ground last September. I do not know what type of fig tree it is but it has green fig fruits.

    I am sure I gave my fig tree enough insulation but the branches
    have died. The base of the tree looks fine. As the tree hasn't leaf out yet, I just hope my tree lives! It is heartbreaking when I saw the branches wilted. The branches were killed by molds.
    I think my mistake was that I DID NOT keep the fig tree DRY ENOUGH!

    It is tricky to keep the fig tree warm enough and not cook the tree that can cause mold to kill the tree. I've found it is a challenge to winterize a fig tree when the weather is not stable.

    I am wondering if I should plant a Hardy Chicago because I've heard this fig always growss back even if there is a dieback!

    Here 1 website for you:
    http://www.figtrees.net/care.html

  • GuoGuo
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Bedtime,

    Glad to see your fig tree budding. I am in zone 5 and my fig tree is still sleeping.

  • GuoGuo
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi fignewbies,

    Thank you for sharing your experience. I live in GTA and just got my first fig "Black Jack" this spring. I think you'd better change your ID since you already have a fig tree for more than five years.:)

    It's so sad to hear about your fig's situation. I believe she can feel your feeling and will come back soon.

    Hardy Chicago sounds great for the cold weather. I may try it next time if I can harvest from my "Black Jack".

  • lukeott
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Bedtime, Do a search on air layer. I would start an air layer on the top of your single branch. This way you will get two things to happen. One, you make another plant for you or a gift to a friend. Two, if will make the tree branch out as ottawan says. It is important for your tree to do this. Also do a search of a technique called pinching. In your zone, you will need to learn this. Your season is shorter and if you don't pinch your tree will waste a lot of energy on figs that will never ripen. It is a good idea to ask questions to these growers in your area because they know the time frame of harvest. The pot looks perfect.

    luke

  • bedtime
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    luke,

    I'd rather not have it branch this low if possible. I'd like to grow this so that the lowest branch is about 3.5 feet up. I'll just be using the leaves and I'm not concerned about the figs so I'll look up pinching as you recommended. I just want to make fig leaf tea with the leaves so as you say, dedicate all the trees resources to doing that.

  • fignewbies
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi,

    GuoGuo, thanks for your kind words. My little fig tree is
    showing some very small buds. It has reduced to about 1 foot
    from the ground because of the molds. Well, at least it LIVES!

    Just curious, where did you get your "Black Jack" from?
    How tall is your tree and is it in the ground? You may have to wait for a while to get fig fruits if your tree is too small!

  • agberg
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi Fignewbies:

    Here's two sources online selling "Black Jack", though the first one is only selling very large/expensive ones:

    1) http://www.buyplantsonline.com/black-mission-fig-tree.html

    2) http://bayflora.com/bjfig.html

  • fignewbies
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi, agberg:

    Thanks for your info!
    After almost 3 weeks time and with a 3 days of rains in Toronto, the longest bud on my little fig tree is close to 1 1/2 inches long with cute infant leaves on it. There are also some small buds on the branches.
    It is just amazing how fast a fig tree can grow.
    The infant leaves look so lush and green as jade colour.
    It is such a joy in looking at the buds!

  • FO876
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I could never understand the dilemma of potting up in too big of a pot, wouldn't it be the same as planting a fig tree in-ground?

  • JoppaRich
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The problem with too-large pots is that they tend to hold water too long. The ground essentially has the worlds largest wick keeping it from staying too waterlogged.

    Container culture is very different from growing in the ground.

  • fignewbies
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi,

    I agree with JoppaRich said that "Container culture is very different from growing in the ground".

    When my fig tree was in a container, the leaves on it were not so nice. The leaves were almost like paper thin. I did not give enough water and fertiziler. At that time, I had no idea how to plant fig properly until I've found this forum.

    The fig was moved to the ground last September and after that
    it is as if it has a new lease on life. Now the leaves are so lush, thick and velvety, I just love touching the leaves!

  • bedtime
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Just for those curious, this is the tree 30 days later. I have a branch near the top strapped to the trunk, and going straight up, so as to become a new main branch/trunk for the tree. The main trunk seems to have stopped growing and there has only been laterial growth.

    Overall looks great to me. No signs of figs but I'll be pruning any figs as soon as I see them. So far 30 leaves on this tree.

  • fignewbies
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi, bedtime:

    Wow! Your previously bare Chicago hardy fig is growing pretty fast for just 1 month. My in-ground (possible a Kadota type) fig tree has only 3 inches of growth on the longest new growths in comparision.

    Your tree sure looks healthy and beautiful!

  • bedtime
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    fignewbies,

    I got my tree from the nursary and brought it home and kept it inside in the warm house. I think this helped the tree to come out of dormancy more quickly. Two weeks later went to the nursary where the figs were all outside still. I saw that they had only about a quarter of the growth as mine did. I think due to bringing it indoors. I also brought it outdoors when temperatures went above 14C and back indoors when temps went below 12C.

  • fignewbies
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi,

    After growing a fig tree, I feel more that I have become a weather person (without pay)! But I enjoy the company of my little fig tree so much that it is not a bother (checking the temperature to ensure tree care) at all!

  • poncirusguy6b452xx
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    My hardy chicago fig tree out grew its 5 gallon bucket and graduated magna cumladi to a 55 gallon half drum. The roots will fill it in one summer.

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    Here is a link that might be useful: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/citrus/msg0320572518736.html

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