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Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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Posted by tbucketer 5 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 9, 09 at 15:30
Hello,
I, like many, am interested in adding a BC Sal's Corleone to my collection. I am willing to trade one of the following established/dormant plants if anyone is interested. Each is in a 1 gallon container using a variation of Tapla's mix (small amount of UPM added). I am just looking for a few viable cuttings. Please send me an e-mail (by clicking on my user name above) if interested and I can provide more info.
Thanks -Jim
Alma- Source UCD. Cuttings started in 2008
Deredo- Source UCD. Started in spring 2009
Excel- Source UCD. Started in 2008
Kadota- Source UCD. Started in 2008
Tena- Source UCD. Started in 2008
Brown Turkey- Source UCD and other sources. Started in 2008.
Unknown Fig- Cutting started from old tree located at Carmelite Monastery, Cleveland OH. |
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RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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- Posted by gorgi z6b NJ (My Page) on
Wed, Nov 11, 09 at 12:54
Sal(C) is still a rare and rather expensive fig. I have
given/sold offspring off my specimen to a point of almost
killing it. Very soon, plenty cheaper offerings should
be available as a result of that. Not to mention other
(silent) fig people that acquired it well before me
(as a source). Sooo, WHY you fig people want it?
Is it the "M" word? |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| "M" is not the case with me! Regards, Cecil |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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- Posted by gorgi z6b NJ (My Page) on
Wed, Nov 11, 09 at 13:37
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| The reason I want it is because it is a rare fig that produces well in the northeast. I'm in Cleveland, Ohio so productive plants are limited as I want to grow my collection. Honestly, the hype also lends to some of my desire. The "M" does make it intriguing but being part Sicilian and hearing my Grandmother talk bad about "M's" sort of sucks the life out of it. Thanks -Jim |
RE: 2-Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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- Posted by gorgi z6b NJ (My Page) on
Wed, Nov 11, 09 at 13:56
Jim,
You will have a 'little' one come spring (free).
Just remind me... |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| That is very nice of you George Cecil |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| I'm assuming "M" stands for money right? Cecil |
RE: 4-Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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- Posted by gorgi z6b NJ (My Page) on
Wed, Nov 11, 09 at 15:29
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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Well, it was written "and hearing my Grandmother talk bad about "M's" sort of sucks the life out of it. "
No grandma talks bad about money. It must be something like Troy and Carta. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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- Posted by gorgi z6b NJ (My Page) on
Wed, Nov 11, 09 at 16:08
Jim,
To clarify something; you will be getting a rooted twig. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| "something like troy and carta" sounds like "club 'Med'"? ;) |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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George,
You are my hero. I can't even express how excited I am to get this "rooted twig". I will send you a a note in the spring. Thank you kind sir. -Jim |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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Jim, I share the same interest in the Sal's C. as you. All four of my G.grandfathers came here from Sicily, bring there families. Two lived in Roccamena, it is just North west of Corleone, one from Salaparuta, right outside to Corleone and the last from Palermo. Still have family in Roccamena and Palermo. Did not care what the fig taste like, wanted it and some others that were common in that region. Figs have always been a part of our table, as far back as I can remember.
J.A. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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George,
On a lighter note my first guess being that the tree came from Corleone, Sicily that the "M" would have stood for "Mafia" and as Pat Cooper used to say, " Mafia spelled backwards is aifam --which in dialect means hungry!!. The actual word is affamato -hungry!!
Just a bit of humor.
best to all
Lou |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| Lou, Are you saying George was putting me on???? Naw........Not George!!!!!!!!!!¿¿¿ Cecil |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| I don't know all about that "I talian" stuff. but does someone here "Parlez vous francais", I might get a better gist of what's going on. LOL |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| You guys are a riot!!! Tim |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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George that was very nice of you about the fig plant (italian cheek kisses )
The M word confused some people. ; ) Sheesh it took forever to load this GW site as usual. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| Martin, Are you speaking for yourself????? |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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Gene, na capisce francese, sometime english either.
J.A. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| Joe I guess I'll have to make an effort to try to connect to my Italian side, I do have one. In fact I think I actually have two. My mother's mother (my grandmother) side of the family is supposedly from Italy, to France, to England (my royal blood), to the USA in the first settlement of Jamestown. Now that's far back. My father's mother (my grandmother) was also from Italian roots. So I guess I got my craving from some very deep roots. Ain't live grand. From the bayou,
"gene" |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| Gene, your family history sounds very interesting. You should do a family tree. Research as much as you can. One thing I left out of my post above, I am sure glad they all decided to move and come to America and that they landed in Louisiana. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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Cecil,
some might have thought "M" equaled money.
No names mentioned. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| Hi Martin, The money thing was exactly what I thought it was! I don't do very good at thinking "Italian" I wonder why? Regards
Cecil |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| Well Cecil, anyone would know the answer to that, you don't use enough olive oil. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| Gorgi, I live in zone 5 where the growing season is short. I bought figs before I heard about this forum. Following my first purchase, I googled "Best Fig Northeast" and found this thread from Fig Forum "Why I say Sal's is my Best In NorthEast". I found the thread compelling to sayd the least, and decided not to stop until I had obtained a BC Sals. "M" has ZERO to do with it. I want a LOT of ripe figs. C.J. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| HAHA J.A.
I knew something was missing! Thanks Cecil |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| CJ The Sal's fig referenced in herman2's "Why I say Sal's is my Best In NorthEast" thread was an EL Sal's and not a BC Sal's. They are not the same cultivar. Dan |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| Danab, That is obvious to the FF cognoscenti but not to newbies. I first read that thread as someone who knew nothing about figs, much less fig acronyms such as "EL", DK, "VdB" etc. By the time I got to the Oct. 8 entries in that thread, what WAS evident to me in my initial reading , was that the issue was the identity of the "real" Sal's...and it seemed that the consensus was that Bellclaire was the origin of the "real" Sal's. What didn't become clear to me until much reading and many threads later (like a couple of months ago) was that EL Sal's was probably the more productive cultivar. The only thing I really understood after my first reading of the thread was that "Sal's" was cold-hardy in the Northeast, produced tasty figs, and originated from Bellclaire...so I NEEDED one. C.J. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| Welcome to fig name confusion. Like I said Herman2's report was on the EL version which is an excellent fig by many reports. I have not seen any such glowing reports written on the BC version of this cultivar.....maybe I missed those reports. The Sal's El is rain tolerant while Sal's BC is not.....that matters in some climates. If you haven't already, you might want to check herman2's and other's reports on Marseilles Black VS.....an excelent, cold hardy, rain tolerant, productive fig. Dan |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| Danab, Thanks for the recommendation for the Marseille VS Black. I have tried to do a lot of reading on the forums since I read that first thread on "Sal's" and I certainly didn't miss the glowing reviews of Herman's Marseille VS. With the help of a lot of people on this forum, my kowledge has grown...a little...and so has my "collection". This forum is an incredible resource. C.J. |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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As another newbie who is easily confused-
I have been wondering what the "VS" in "Marseilles VS" stands for. Kyle |
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| I started looking into it as well. I found the following thread re: Herman's trials with MBV |
Here is a link that might be useful: Marseilles Black,Leads in my fig trial so far
RE: Trade BC Sal's cuttings for dormant tree
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| The "VS" in "Marseilles VS" are the initials of herman2's real name. Herman2 is the man who discovered this fig, trialed it up in New Jersey, and reported on its good qualities. By all reports it is an excellent fig that performs well in most climates. FYI Newbies...IMO Herman2 is THE #1 FIG EXPERT on this forum....read his posts and you will pick up a lot of good information that he readily shares with us. Dan |
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